Robo miners/Remote Mining maintenance Reduction

[Tarkin]

Baron,

Would you mind showing me an example of just how to do that and I'll give it a spin.

Thanks

Tarkin

[Baron Munchausen]

Add the Cargo ability to all of your remote mining components, like this:


Name := Robo-Miners I
Description := Robotic machinery which can mine asteroids or empty planets remotely, but this will decrease their value permanently. Only one ship at a time can use remote extraction in a sector.
Pic Num := 243
Tonnage Space Taken := 100
Tonnage Structure := 100
Cost Minerals := 800
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 200
Vehicle Type := Ship\Base\Sat
Supply Amount Used := 100
Restrictions := None
General Group := Remote Mining
Family := 30
Roman Numeral := 1
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Minerals Extraction
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Number of Abilities := 2
Ability 1 Type := Remote Resource Generation - Minerals
Ability 1 Descr := Automatically mines 600 minerals from any asteroids or empty planets in the sector each turn.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 600
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Ability 2 Type := Cargo Storage
Ability 2 Descr := Can be used in place of cargo capacity in a transport.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 0
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0
Weapon Type := None

Then give your transport hulls a reduced maintenance ability like bases have:

Name := Small Transport
Short Name := Small Transport
Description :=
Code := ST
Bitmap Name := TransportSmall
Vehicle Type := Ship
Tonnage := 300
Cost Minerals := 100
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 0
Engines Per Move := 1
Number of Tech Req := 1
Tech Area Req 1 := Ship Construction
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Number of Abilities := 1
Ability 1 Type := Modified Maintenance Cost
Ability 1 Descr := Reduced performance requirements allow for 25 percent lower maintenance costs than a warship.
Ability 1 Val 1 := -25
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Requirement Must Have Bridge := True
Requirement Can Have Aux Con := True
Requirement Min Life Support := 1
Requirement Min Crew Quarters := 1
Requirement Uses Engines := True
Requirement Max Engines := 5
Requirement Min Engines := 1
Requirement Pct Fighter Bays := 0
Requirement Pct Colony Mods := 0
Requirement Pct Cargo := 50

[Codo]

For my mod, I am making 3 hull types specifically intended for remote mining. The small prospector has enough space for bridge, crew, life support, 1 robo-whatever, and 20kT extra (intended for supply storage). The medium has enough room for 2 robos, and the large has room for 3 robos. All three have -75% maintenance. What's to prevent them from being used as warships? They only have 2 engines, they are 75% easier to hit in combat (Slow and bulky...) and weapons fire from them is at -75%. Now honestly, I wish the Requirement X Type system from the vehicle sizes was working as advertised. Then it would just be easy to rig the hull to require x% hull space for remote mining...But until someone can tell me how to make this work, I think this is a great way to make a cost effective vessel for mining, but to discourage its use as a combat vessel...


WOO-HOO! It appears that this particular post has granted me my promotion! After long wondering how many Posts it would take me...I've made Corporal!

Codo


[This message has been edited by Codo (edited 10 March 2001).]

[Tarkin]

Baron,

Thank you for taking the time to work this out for me. However as I knew once I started messing with my data files I would screw something up. I followed your directions and when I tried to give it a test run I came up with multiple data file errors based upon the changes I made. I am sure I missed something or did something wrong. I think I will sit back and wait for a mod that might accomplish this. But I thank you for your efforts.

Codo,

I am glad I can help in your promotion:-) I think your mod idea sounds very interesting and look forward to you finishing it!

Thank you

Tarkin

[This message has been edited by Tarkin (edited 10 March 2001).]

[Hal01]

I usually wait untill I have a base ship and load it up with miners. This is the ship that will maximize output vs maintenance. I have found that I can even mine asteriods with this ship and still make a profit.

[janpet]

Or you could put your remote miners in satellites, no maintenance only income. You need to research large satellites though, otherwise there isn't space enough to fit a remote miner.



[This message has been edited by janpet (edited 10 March 2001).]

[Drake]

Last I tested this, you only get the resources from ONE satellite in a group over a planet doing this. You'll still decrease the % value of the planet by 1 each turn, which seems like a waste to me since you'll be getting very little out of it. Just colonize the planet and value improve it instead.