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Old March 12th, 2004, 11:26 PM

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PS Max %: 200
min %: 0
% cost: 10
Threshold: 25
threshold cost (positive): 50
threshold cost (negative): 100

hence it is entirly possible to buy it down to nothing, and play the warmonger race.
I think the negative threshold cost is too high... you could get like 8000 pts by dropping to zero -- a bit too much of incentive to go war-monger...

Neutrals should be able to garner enough points to purchase inflated aptitude costs by dropping their combat-related skills to the min. If that doesn't do it, maybe increase the negative cost of something that the player absolutely needs (like Combat Defense) and let all the neutrals drop it to zero.

And come to think of it, really only Mineral Aptitude cost should be inflated, since orgs and rads are usually ok to drop...
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Old March 12th, 2004, 11:37 PM

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200% would leave a normal empire with a deficit. But as an AI with a high bonus, they make 5x normal. What they give in trade and tariff reflects their pre-bonus output rather than their actual totals.
SE4 just deducts the totals anyway, so it shouldn't cause a problem..careful, though- subjegated races can't accept treaties, but they can gift them (and accept them as gifts)
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Old March 12th, 2004, 11:42 PM
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right. moving threshold to and neg cost both to 50 then. higher incentive for positive, lower for negative. still respectable numbers of points to be gained from zeroing it out.
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..careful, though- subjegated races can't accept treaties, but they can gift them (and accept them as gifts)
gifting can be disabled easily enough for the AI, at least making them give a gift or tribute to an enemy. they could be made to be willing to give gifts and tributes to a friendly race but not an enemy one, which should extend to any no-treaty races.

I believe that if you gift a subjugation treaty to some one, you will be on the paying end of it. of course, that could possibly break the AIs existing treaty, and allow it to be re-established with someone else. I will have to test.
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Another idea, maybe get rid of troops? Capturing neutral worlds is much more appealing than blowing them up...

Also makes it trickier to get all those breathers, which further serves to reduce player base income...
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I'd think that keeping troops in would be good. That way, you've still got the option to capture. A better idea IMO, would be to make it much harder to take a world. Say, increase militia hit points and number of militia per population.

Another idea. Is there a way to make specific Neutrals have something special, like a unique tech that they would be willing to "sell" or trade with an ally that would make it worth while? Perhaps Uber efficient cargo bays that are 5x as good as regular ones? Or even some sort of advanced armor/shield techs? Obviously, being an AI only tech, the trade off would have to be pretty good since once a play had it, they wouldn't be able to do any future upgrades. Just an idea.
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the bonuses for the nuetrals could be culture bonuses.
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