Fleet supply problem in 1.91!

[Saber Cherry]

Could the problem be related to the ships' order within the fleet? In other words, if the big ship is listed Last in the fleet as opposed to first, that might cause the bug to occur or not occur...

[Spoo]

Did your ships have components that use up supplies? (like activated cloaking devices)

[PvK]

Originally posted by Litcube:
... Was it a stock game per chance?

No, my Proportions mod Version 2.5.2.2. Nothing really about the mod that would impact supply distribution. These are just ships with engines and supply components (and some typical fighting gear) on them. Well... I guess there could be some weird side-effect of something or other. Seems improbable though since we're just talking about sharing supplies.

Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak:
This has been an issue in 1.84 but just with fighters mixed in fleets already. AFAIR, the ship supplies got divided by 2 every turn (in case of fighters in the fleet).

Yes, I know about the fighter issue with supplies in 1.84, but.
1) This is 1.91, and isn't the fighter issue with supplies supposed to be fixed?
2) This problem does not work the same way at all. Some ships are filling up while others are actually losing supplies even though they have less than some, and the ship with the most supply capacity actually got filled up to its maximum! Also, the amount of lost supplies is a weird number and less than the amount if a whole ship were jettisoning supplies (as in the fighter case). It is an idea that if this is somehow a similar phenomenon, maybe the supplies lost is somehow related to the transfer amounts. In fact, my best hunch is that maybe this is a side-effect of fixing the fighter/fleet supply bug in 1.84!

Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
Could the problem be related to the ships' order within the fleet? In other words, if the big ship is listed Last in the fleet as opposed to first, that might cause the bug to occur or not occur...

That's a possibility. The order I showed was the order they appear in the window right of the sector map when the fleet is selected. It's a different order if you look at the Fleet Transfer interface. And I think both are different from the order of the ships if the fleet is broken up. I'm not sure what the specific theory would be though. In this case, the supply ship was the fleet leader, it appeared in the middle of the ships that got resupplied, it got resupplied itself, and the ships at the end lost supplies.

Another hypothesis is it might be related to the order in which the ships were build, or to their names. The three ships that didn't get supplied were I think built before the other ships except for the resupply ship. Two of them were built on a different date from the other, and although they're now the same class, the class they were originally built as were different... and had fewer supplies... I'll have to check if maybe they got filled to their original capacity in their original class.

Originally posted by Spoo:
Did your ships have components that use up supplies? (like activated cloaking devices)

No. The ships are all pretty ordinary warships, had no orders before fleeting to resupply, and aren't cloaked or doing anything but sitting there, and training crews.

An additional bit of info is that a few turns earlier, using 1.84, the ships which just failed to resupply did successfully resupply with the same supply ship, as expected. However the smaller ships were not involved in that resupply.

PvK

[ March 14, 2004, 01:47: Message edited by: PvK ]

[PvK]

Further info. I removed the ships that were filled up from the fleet, and the next turn, the tanker refuelled the larger ships, as expected. No supplies vanished from the sum this turn.

PvK

[se5a]

from memory fighter no longer get refulled in a fleet (they act as if they are not in a fleet)