OT: What Has The World Come To

Narrew · #1 April 5th, 2004, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by Wardad:
BTW: The ladies were not crones. They were kinda cute and younger than me, well mid thirties.

ok, my bad, but you would think in their thirties they would have something more important to do than worry about dogs in a car at night, hehe, maybe they were real blonds and didn't know it was night?

I will do a search on the article also, I think it was funny and I am consertitive at that.

DavidG · #2 April 5th, 2004, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Roanon:

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Originally posted by DavidG:
I'd be willing be most serious accidents are caused in some part by excessive speed.

Of course, a speed of zero guarantees no accidents at all . A fact is, though, that least of all accidents happen on motorways, and of those few the most happen on construction sites, where a speed limit makes sense (and is rarely checked, like near schools and on other sites where they make sense - and are followed most of the time even if not radar-checked).
Just pure speed on a suitable highway is not dangerous in itself. In fact, a general speed limit without reason slightly increases accidents, because it lessens your concentration when you are forced to drive way below your skill limit, and causes so called "micro-sleeps" when even slightly tired or fatigued, which then can cause accidents. In these situations driving faster, at a comfortable speed, is in fact safer, because it enhances attention and reactions.
"Too fast" is very much depending on the situation, there are situations when even 40 mph is way too fast. But the US standard 55 mph on highways with little or no traffic are just ridiculous and unmatched, no other country with general speed limits has such a low limit.

Well of course I was talking about traffic accidents which pretty much always happen on roads. And also I said speed was "in some part" responsible. Of course not 100% responsible. I don't buy at all that "driving below your skill level" causes lack of concentraction and thus accidents. Sounds like you are saying you should be going like a bat out of hell to keep up the concentration level??

Accidents are caused by something unexpected happening. When this happens the guy going the speed limit is much more likely to avoid the incident. that's just simple physics.

solops · #3 April 5th, 2004, 09:15 PM

"What Has The World Come To"

Oooo! Ooooo! Pick me! I know the answer!

Its in the same sorry state it was 7000 years ago. The names have changed, but people haven't.

tesco samoa · #4 April 5th, 2004, 09:18 PM

PVK Safety is part of the laws. If people wish to use Public roads and Highways then they must follow the Road and Safety act. Or what ever it is called in your area. Their choice is to use the roads and follow the laws or not use the roads.

Safety belts is one of these laws. Other ones are drag chains on Trailers. Child seats in the back. Etc...

They are designed to make the roads safer for those who travel on it. And in the times when there is an accident to lessen the damage to people and vechiles. Fatalities take alot longer to clean up than non fatal accidents. And this time frame also affects everything that needs to travel down that road. And all other roads that are affected by the run off of divirted traffic.

If they are on Personal Private Property. Then that is a different matter and they will follow the Laws of that Property.

DavidG to me that is just another taxation on us. It does not make us any safer. Everyone could be doing 110 in a 100 zone. How does taking a picture of all those vechiles make us safer ?

Does it stop the person passing on the right or doing dangerous lane changes travelling at 100 km.

In the Photo Radar world that person is the safe one.

narf poit chez BOOM · #5 April 5th, 2004, 09:22 PM

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I don't buy at all that "driving below your skill level" causes lack of concentraction and thus accidents. Sounds like you are saying you should be going like a bat out of hell to keep up the concentration level??

It's true that the faster something happens the faster your reactions are. just measure your reactions on SE. You'll probably use measurements of at least 5 seconds. Now, check them out on say, Half-Life. Descisions are made sometimes in less than a second. And yet, your sense of time has also changed, which you'll notice if you pay enough attention.

I don't know what the efficience graph for speed vs reflexes might be, though.

[ April 05, 2004, 20:24: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

DavidG · #6 April 5th, 2004, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by tesco samoa:

DavidG to me that is just another taxation on us. It does not make us any safer. Everyone could be doing 110 in a 100 zone. How does taking a picture of all those vechiles make us safer ?

Well as of course you know it's not the picture that makes us safer it's giving the guy a ticket so maybe he will slow down in the future.

If it is a taxation it is a taxation on you not me. I have no problem with that.

In fact I'd encourage the government to do this. I like government services someone else is paying for.

Photo rader won't stop the guy doing 110 in the 100 zone (BTW this guy doing 110 will be the slowest guy on the road if you happen to be driving in Ontario) But it will stop the guy doing 130 or 140. (which is probably closer to the average speed people drive on the QEW and 400 highways)

IMO photo radar should be brough back and set to hand out tickets to anyone going more than about 10km/h over the speed limit

DavidG · #7 April 5th, 2004, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:

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I don't buy at all that "driving below your skill level" causes lack of concentraction and thus accidents. Sounds like you are saying you should be going like a bat out of hell to keep up the concentration level??

It's true that the faster something happens the faster your reactions are. just measure your reactions on SE. You'll probably use measurements of at least 5 seconds. Now, check them out on say, Half-Life. Descisions are made sometimes in less than a second. And yet, your sense of time has also changed, which you'll notice if you pay enough attention.

I don't know what the efficience graph for speed vs reflexes might be, though.

I like to see the proof of that. however even if true is the difference significant enough that a guy doing 130km/h when the moose is spoted crossing the road will be able to stop as quick as the guy doing 100km/h?