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Old May 11th, 2004, 03:26 PM

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Default Re: fantastic idea for se5

Seems like XML may be an applicable file format for indexing something of this nature.

I like the idea... but after all my glorious historical recording of Xiban II, one dopey escort with DUCs can still wipe it away with ease.
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Old May 11th, 2004, 06:12 PM
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A most excellent idea! That way we could avoid mishaps like the Breen coming from a hot planet and such Also would be a great boon to roleplaying, as the Chozo would definitely be interested when they discover their ancestral home planet of Zebes... RP games in my experience tend to be short on combats, which is a shame, but this gives people something to fight over

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However, I agree taht space could become a problem. It would be fantastic if se could automatically detect and decompress zip files- Id' save hundreds of megs on my races folder alone, and it would suit this idea perfectly. That would be the solution I suggest.
MOO3 did this... except it used zip files renamed to *.mob so you had to rename them before you modified them
What I do to get around this problem is I like to compress my drive... Windows XP has a handy Disk Compression tool which basically zips everything on your drive automagically and transparently, so each of those 48KB ships (they do add up!) only takes up around 3KB!
I wouldn't recommend compressing your drive if you're lacking in the RAM department, though, because the way I understand it is, compression will actually speed up your HDD access on "data-sparse" files like bitmaps and text files because less actual HDD access is required; the data can be uncompressed in RAM. But if you're lacking enough RAM to do the uncompression, it has to use HDD space (virtual memory) and that defeats the whole purpose! (Except the part of saving HDD space on files you don't use often.)Of course that's just my guess as to how it all works

edit: I also like XML, but it does have 2 problems: for one thing, you need those cryptic xmlns and such tags at the beginning, and for another thing, it is very data-sparse, meaning there's not much actual data compared to the number of bytes used in opening and closing tags... no problem with a compressed drive, but if your drive is UNcompressed...

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Maybe use a good compression format, not the poor quality that is Zip...
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Maybe use a good compression format, not the poor quality that is Zip...
I knew you'd bring that up. Zip is widely recognised and supported, and even on-technical ppl generally know how to handle zip file (I work in IT support, and I know this from experience). Also, zips are handled almost transparently in XP or by earlier Versions oif they install the right software.

For the sake of an extra few % compression is it really worth switching to something more obscure like .rar?
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The quadrant-wide web (QWW), eh?

So what the URL of Maxanara VII be?

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Maybe use a good compression format, not the poor quality that is Zip...
I knew you'd bring that up. Zip is widely recognised and supported, and even on-technical ppl generally know how to handle zip file (I work in IT support, and I know this from experience). Also, zips are handled almost transparently in XP or by earlier Versions oif they install the right software.

For the sake of an extra few % compression is it really worth switching to something more obscure like .rar?

From MM/SF/mods, using best compression all around:
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P&N-AllCampaigns.rar        05-May-2004 18:22  545K  
P&N-AllCampaigns.zip 04-May-2004 17:52 1.8M

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Maybe use a good compression format, not the poor quality that is Zip...
I knew you'd bring that up. Zip is widely recognised and supported, and even on-technical ppl generally know how to handle zip file (I work in IT support, and I know this from experience). Also, zips are handled almost transparently in XP or by earlier Versions oif they install the right software.

For the sake of an extra few % compression is it really worth switching to something more obscure like .rar?

Rars can be handled almost transparently with the right software installed as well. .rar archives are handled EXACTLY the same as .zip ones, except that you don't get the built-in XP support for zips, which is really meaningless overall because it just takes installing one program to get very similar functionality.

.rar is a hell of a lot more than a few % better than .zip, and it is nowhere near as obscure as you are making it out to be. .ace would be obscure.

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