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Old May 15th, 2004, 01:39 AM
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Pick up MP* option for the empire. That will give you better mining facilities. And ship more people around to build cities faster !!!

I sometimes have the problem with maintenance but only if my home system is poor.
Great post Oleg, wish I thought of posting this.

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Pick up MP* option for the empire. That will give you better mining facilities. And ship more people around to build cities faster !!!

I sometimes have the problem with maintenance but only if my home system is poor.
Great post Oleg, wish I thought of posting this.
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Another idea - if maintanence is such a problem, lower default value in settings.txt from 100% to 90 or 80. That should cure it It won't be the same AIC mod, but what a heck, it is YOUR game

As to finite resources, don't play it untill you master infinite. Even then, always chose Religious and build Nature Shrine III ASAP.
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Another idea - if maintanence is such a problem, lower default value in settings.txt from 100% to 90 or 80. That should cure it It won't be the same AIC mod, but what a heck, it is YOUR game

As to finite resources, don't play it untill you master infinite. Even then, always chose Religious and build Nature Shrine III ASAP.
You probably shouldnt mess with the settings file to much if you lower the maintenance settings below 90% you will probably break all the Crystalline Races and after you upgrade to the Last engineering section component or build the Systems Maintenance Facility for all players you will probably end up with negitive maintence numbers in a lot of of places and break the game whole game.
AIC maintenance percentages are very complexed and I know Alneyan and JLS put a lot of thought into the Race Maintenance Characteristic option.
It is better to master infinite resource games before you satart a finite game.
When playing a FINITE AIC game Citys and LARGE Cities are extremely important and you will always run out of RADS energy first, followed by Minerals. The food useually Last for ever. The AIC AI will not melt down for a long time (if ever) so be on your guard.

Oleg is right on with MP* multiplayer game option = Increased Research and resource facilities for a faster Multiplayer build up and expantion.

Most of us also learn and play at higher AI bonus levels in our solo games.
O1* (starting option one)RECOMENDED FOR NEW PLAYERS that gives JUST you a larger home world and Colonys = more EVERYTHING including research and intel.

02* (starting option 2) RECOMENDED FOR NEW PLAYERS this gives JUST you 150% more Resources, this will boost anybodys economy enough to take even the best placed AI Player. (O2* option is not recommended for Finite games because it wastes your resources faster then you can use or store them)

HINT what ever start option (even none of the above) you play you can have tons of smaller missile ships and out match the AI (fleet to fleet) most of the time early in the game even without building one mineral facility if that is your only goal
I fo i remeber correctly only the hive AI race to destroyers and light cruisers early in a LOW AI bonus game.

I hope this helps.
GLV

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You probably shouldnt mess with the settings file to much if you lower the maintenance settings below 90% you will probably break all the Crystalline Races and after you upgrade to the Last engineering section component or build the Systems Maintenance Facility for all players you will probably end up with negitive maintence numbers in a lot of of places and break the game whole game.

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Sure, but if he is really desperate...
90% instead of 100% should almost half the maintanence if I am not mistaken.
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HINT what ever start option (even none of the above) you play you can have tons of smaller missile ships and out match the AI (fleet to fleet) most of the time early in the game even without building one mineral facility if that is your only goal
I fo i remeber correctly only the hive AI race to destroyers and light cruisers early in a LOW AI bonus game.

I hope this helps.
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Not so. many AIs like to use fighters en mass and research them quickly. Small ships with missiles can not have much of PD and will be chewed up with small if any damage to enemy. Well, it normally happens to my ships
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Sure. But taking o1 and o2 start options in the game will almost double your resources and research.

We dont need to HARD change the setting file and take a chance on breaking the mod. And you still have the resources to have more ships then a 10% hard maintanence reducion change will give you


Sorry about the Last post " of of places and break the game whole game"
(Wow I even slur my typing after a few cocktails)

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many AIs like to use fighters en mass and research them quickly. Small ships with missiles can not have much of PD and will be chewed up with small if any damage to enemy. Well, it normally happens to my ships
A few low cost escorts with point defence will remedy this. Unless you are talking about taking out an AI Players home world or large colony early, then ye I would research fighters like the AI did and launch them on small transports. Nevermind that is not enough, it takes a lot to glass the AI home world.
But it will help at early warp point defences

When playing against the AI at low AI bonus I can easily out research all of them (maybe not the eee but they tend to be freindly) even when i dont take any start options I usually win.

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