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May 20th, 2004, 12:25 PM
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Re: OT: Contact
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Space is nothing. It is empty... space. Yeah... anyways, it is merely the extension of 3 dimensions. It is volume, but that is all. It is the same sort of nothing that the volume inside a box is. I do not mean nothing as in it doesn't exist, just that it is the void in which other things are contained. It is not really something by itself.
The universe is contained inside space. Space is nothing exactly like zero is nothing. No apples and no oranges. Zero. And like zero, if you add more space to the space you have, you still just get the same space. Both are infinite in size.
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I like this anaolgy. Think of the universe as a box. The galaxies and other matter are things in the box. Space is the volume around and between all the stuff. But just like the box, the universe is finite.
Your anaology and the conclusion you derive from it are contradictory. Because the universe is NOT contained inside space. Space is contained inside the universe. Outside of the box(universe) is not more space, because space is inside the box.
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May 20th, 2004, 11:39 PM
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Re: OT: Contact
The matter of the universe is indeed contained inside space. Space is infinite. The universe is not. The space was there before the big bang that lead to the universe as it is now... How do you think the universe is able to expand? It must expand into something that is there. Such as empty space...
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May 21st, 2004, 03:08 AM
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Re: OT: Contact
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No you don't end up with the same space. You end up with a greater volume of space. Although, space is considered to be continually expanding, so that volume of space is also proportionately increasing.
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That was relying on the assumption that space, like 0, is an infinite set...
Sometimes, to formulate a possible theory with lack of hard evidence, you have to make some assumptions.
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May 21st, 2004, 06:03 AM
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Re: OT: Contact
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Why is 0 an infinite set?
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Re: OT: Contact
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Why is 0 an infinite set?
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I don't think zero gives an infinite result when you divide something by it. In order to divide something, you have to have something to divide it by.
That is, if that's what your talking about.
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