Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War

[dogscoff]

Yeah, really. He should have shown it at that big conservative film festival... Uh... the ummm... Great Texan Film Festival Chili Cookoff Gun and Doll Show. But he lacks the huevos.

rotflmao

[trooper]

I don't think guys such as M. Moore fears polemic...

But there has been a real attempt of censorship from the US governement concerning this documentary. What does the gov. fear, if all this document is pure bull**** ? And does the US constitution still ensures freedom of speech for everyone ? That's questions I would ask to myself if I was an US citizen...

[ May 18, 2004, 13:12: Message edited by: trooper ]

[freduk]

That M. Moore movie is not pure bull****, just something every idiot with below average IQ could think of.
But it could have some impact on the avarage American, as retardation seems to be the standard there, believing everything GW Bush and CNN proclaim.
A LOT of people believed the story of mass destruction weapens as in nukes with uranium purchased from "Africa". What a joke.
Not that I hold anything against USA citizens, just that the mass is quite stupid.

The war in Iraq is escalating, like in Afghanistan, now it's time to focus on something totally different, withdrawing the attention from the Iraq war.
Maybe it's time to "liberate" North-Korea???

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by freduk:

Maybe it's time to "liberate" North-Korea???

Doubtful. In fact the news today is we are pulling 3k+ troops out of S. Korea and sending them to Iraq. For what it's worth I think Iraq has/will do a lot towards showing us our limitations. At the begining of this we heard a lot of reckless talk about taking the war to Iran and Syria after Iraq. We don't hear that talk anymore much thankfully.

[tesco samoa]

i do not like Mr. Moore either.

But I do like the fact that he makes you think and ask questions.

That alone makes his stuff worth while.

[freduk]

If you need that "shame on you mister Bush, shame on you!" moron to start thinking you have a serious problem

[dogscoff]

At the begining of this we heard a lot of reckless talk about taking the war to Iran and Syria after Iraq. We don't hear that talk anymore much thankfully.

Bery true, hadn't noticed that until you pointed it out.
Of course it might have as much to do with the fact that another Iraq (or at least, another Iraq in the next few years) would be political suicide for Bush or Blair. What with all the scandals and revelations of skullduggery and deception they are only just holding on to their jobs now. Blair certainly, Bush probably less so.

Can;t wait for the upcoming local elections over here, labour are going to get obliterated.

I used to be a real labour supporter, but Blair's support of Bush has turned me right against them. We have no viable left-wing party now on the national level, just right (tory party: corrupt, inept and inelectable.), almost-as-far-right (Blair's labour: to think labour used to be a proper socialist party ) and a central party (Liberals: Never been in power, so who knows?).

In local elections we will also have the usual array of independents, extremists and wierdoes, but also the "UK Independence party", which is basically a nasty, reactionary right wing little setup which cares for nothing more than flatly defying anything the other side of the channel and beating up on immigrants and refugees. They will do very well in the local elections, and in doing so split the tory vote right down the middle. Labour will probably lose most of its votes to the liberals, with a few more protest voters drifting rightwards.

I think we'll have the greatest number of liberal MPs this time around than ever in history, and with a little luck we might even end up with a liberal govmnt one of these days. Most of their policies seem ok (they have consistantly opposed the war) but then they never expected to get into power so they can say what the hell they like . Personally I'd vote for anyone within spitting distance of the left who wasn't just in politics for ulterior motives.

Still, the liberals deserve a chance imho. I'll vote for them and (hopefully) see what they look like in power. If they turn out to be as corrupt as the rest of them I've decided I'm going to give up on democracy altogether and become a crazy-eyed anarchist.