Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War

[rextorres]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Moore is a jerk and only the French would give him an award for an anti-Bush movie.

Actually that's another mistruth.

The jury committee (the ones who choose the winner) is made up of 3 Americans, 1 Brit, 1 Chinese, 1 Finn, 1 Haitian and only 1 French person. 1 French Jury Member does not constitute as the "French" giving Moore an award. You can look it up if you don't believe me.

I suppose it's a credit - and a lack of bigotry -on the French to choose mostly foreigners. I can't imagine an American organization allowing mostly foreigners to pick an award for anything much less the most prestigious film award.

[ May 23, 2004, 21:51: Message edited by: rextorres ]

[primitive]

Originally posted by rextorres:

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
Basically any movie that attacks the culture of America with suffient enough lies and mistruths can win a palme d'or.

This is regretable, but true.

I am not sure if you saw the movie, but, Moore attacks Bush not our culture in this movie. Implying that Moore's movie attacks our culture is a mistruth.
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Huh, Rex.

Do you mean to imply that lying, stealing, corruption, torture and random killing of people with different skintone or creed is not American culture. Now I'm getting confused.

Edit: Typing

[ May 23, 2004, 21:56: Message edited by: primitive ]

[Grauzone]

Originally posted by primitive:

Do you mean to imply that lying, stealing, corruption, torture and random killing of people with different skintone or creed is not American culture. Now I'm getting confused.

if you talking in this way, you can append norway very fast to the axis of evil. be carefully with your words

[spoon]

There was a good article on slashdot today about Moore: Slashdot

Here are three links from the slashdot discussion:

bowling for columbine criticism

Moore's response to criticisms

Direct response to Bowling criticism

[Gandalf Parker]

Definetly be careful with words. This thread could be in in danger.

[primitive]

Originally posted by Grauzone:

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if you talking in this way, you can append norway very fast to the axis of evil. be carefully with your words

Ssssh,
Don't give Bush any fancy ideas. There are too many implications already.

We got the oil, we got a religious leader as head of goverment (a priest) and we don't show anyone any WMD's so we must be hiding them.

GP:
Don't worry

[Slynky]

I think Rex makes a good point that the French didn't give the award. Of course, as I allow for American "private agendas", I will allow for the fact that foreign countries voted for this film in order to further their private agenda...make America look bad. Obviously, it's a political film and votes could surely be cast accordingly.

I'm not here to say America is perfect and other countries are full of faults. I believe all countries spin things the way they want them based (in part) on how it helps themselves.

I think, and I'm glad I'm in a country where I am allowed to, that enough of the movie is based on fact to allow the rest of the movie to draw conclusions and make "suggestions".

As to the war? The US public was "bombarded" with B&W photos of all the places where WMDs were located...yet, when we got there, nothing could be found. I wonder, being of a free mind, if I was lied to (to gain public support) or if Iraq was really great at hiding all of them.

Problem is, a lot of people in the US haven't had the opportunity to work in the classified areas I have worked in. Even working in the government is enough to give one a glimpse of how facts get distorted.