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May 24th, 2004, 12:03 PM
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Re: Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War
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May 24th, 2004, 12:17 PM
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Re: Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War
I also believe there is more to 9/11 that meets the eye but who doesn't. I agree with Fyron that said something along the lines (to lazy to look it up) of "It's not only the majority of the USA that's stupid also of your country" which was directed at freduk.
I can't agree more. The world is full of idiots.
And sometimes we act as idiots  . To me, one of the things that pissed me of after the US & Britain attacked Iraq was that suddenly, a lot of Europeans (mainly) started thrashing on Bush. It became fashionable to trash "old yeller". Hey, i don't think he's smart enough either to be president, but all the "join us in protesting against bush" bandwagon stuff was over the top for me. The undertone that was spread was something like "If you are not against Bush and can't see he is evil, you're an idiot"
(a bit the same as Bush'es: "You are either with us or against us)
Well boohoo, i'll make up my own mind thank you.
A lot of people say the US sucks just to be "fashionable".
About bandwagon stuff: i'll never forget a story that my history teacher told us in class. Before WWII, a Doctor wanted to know what all the fuss was about with this ony guy, Hitler. He went over to a rally with the idea that Hitler was a complete cookoo & dangerous and that he manipulated people. At a certain time during the meeting, he caught himself clapping along with the masses. He was shocked.
A very illustrating story i think. When too many people start cheering, take a step backwards, start your brain and then decide what to do. Don't be a parrot.
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May 25th, 2004, 01:02 AM
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Re: Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War
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3 Americans, 1 Brit, 1 Chinese, 1 Finn, 1 Haitian and only 1 French person.
See... only 12.5% french. 37.5% American & 12.5% British-
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To be more precise (no haitian in my list):
Quentin Tarantino (USA, film director),
Emmanuelle Beart (France, actress,
Jerry Schatzberg, USA, film director),
Tilda Swinton (UK, actress),
Tsui Hark (Honk-Kong, Film maker),
Edwidge Danticat ( USA, writer) ,
Benoit Poelvoorde (Belgium, actor & film writer ),
Kathleen Turner (USA, actress),
Peter Von Bagh ( Finland, film critic).
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May 25th, 2004, 01:15 AM
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Re: Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War
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ONLY the French and those who love to hate America would consider this movie and the manusha that it shovels to be worthy of an award. That says a hell of a lot about them.
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Come on little boy, stop crying, all those people don't really hate you.
What makes people upset in France (and in many other countries) is Bush's foreign politic. But they don't hate the whole America.
Clinton, by example, has always been very popular in France, because he was open minded (or at least gave the impression he was) when dealing with middle east or environmental issues.
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May 25th, 2004, 01:27 AM
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Re: Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War
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Originally posted by trooper:
Come on little boy, stop crying, all those people don't really hate you.
What makes people upset in France (and in many other countries) is Bush's foreign politic. But they don't hate the whole America.
Clinton, by example, has always been very popular in France, because he was open minded (or at least gave the impression he was) when dealing with middle east or environmental issues.
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full agreement to this statement.
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May 24th, 2004, 02:59 PM
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Re: Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War
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ONLY the French and those who love to hate America would consider this movie and the manusha that it shovels to be worthy of an award. That says a hell of a lot about them.
Shame on the French!
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OhHum.
I rank this statement at the same level as the "US is a country made up of idiot-NRA lovers-ignorant-fat cowboys" myth. I think I prefer you as a shipset designer Atrocities.

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May 24th, 2004, 05:04 PM
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Re: Completely OT : Cannes, Mickael Moore and the Iraq War
Trooper,
Well, Edwidge Danticat was born in Haiti - but if she is considered to be from the U.S. it emphasizes French open mindedness even more.
[ May 24, 2004, 16:10: Message edited by: rextorres ]
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