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June 1st, 2004, 09:32 PM
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Re: Semi OT: Spaceship Cockpits?
Silly photoshopper - the entier enterprise is in very good focus at (what, about a 30 degree angle?) but the stuff beneath it along the entire length of the thing is in poor focus? Real cameras taking pictures of real things don't do that.
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Re: Semi OT: Spaceship Cockpits?
The issue with cockpits/windows in space ships is typically tied up in our conception that windows and cockpits represent weak points - ie, that the substance used for them is weaker then the rest of the hull.
If that limitation could be overcame (and the problems, of course, of joining the sections together) then there's no reason not to make the entire ship transparent (such was the case with a book by, i believe, larry niven - the entire ship was one continuous peice, that was totally transparent; you just painted over the parts you didnt' want to be clear).
Of potential interest is that having a visual reference point out at several locations would be very useful for a number of things; murphy's law states that if you have the most expensive and powerful computer and sensor suite in the galaxy, it'll get knocked out in the first 5 minutes and your crew will have to sight-fire the gazers.
just a thought,
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Re: Semi OT: Spaceship Cockpits?
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They use artifical gravity, and most transportation between distant locales is done by the mysterious turbolift - what makes you think those windows are at odd angles to the rooms on the other side?
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Blueprints of the TOS ships. I think there are TNG blueprints, and even a game or two that let you walk around inside the ships based on (hopefully the same) blueprints (q.v. Star Trek TNG: Interactive Technical Manual). But I've never looked at TNG blueprints... having been so off-put by the whole TNG thing.
Let's see... quick web scan... came up dry.
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June 2nd, 2004, 01:27 AM
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Re: Semi OT: Spaceship Cockpits?
Gotta have something to navigate by when all those sensors/scanners fail.
I sure like the season final of Enterprise. Those aquatic aliens had windows in their ships and the lizard Xindi bLasted the ship and all the water was being sucked out. So I guess those Aquatic Xindi ships are nothing more than mobile aquariums.
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June 2nd, 2004, 05:54 AM
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Re: Semi OT: Spaceship Cockpits?
Well, im using my own shipset. Here are two links to ships to represent my ideas:
http://tlogicempire.tripod.com/temp/...tlecruiser.gif
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http://tlogicempire.tripod.com/races...battleship.gif
I'm now in process of sketching a redesign for the blue ships and planning one for the red ones, and i got curious whether should i put those little window thingies or not.
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Re: Semi OT: Spaceship Cockpits?
Your links are dead (or more precisely wounded by Tripod  ). Think you’re over your bandwidth limit.
As for windows in spaceships:
Glass and other transparent materials weight a whole lot more than other potential hull materials, so keeping the amount down to the absolute minimum would be the economical way to do it.
Windows are not really necessary anymore either. Put a camera outside and hang a flat screen TV on the wall. Lighter, cheaper and you can watch something else besides empty space once in a while.
And its safe enough. When cameras and TV screens stop working in a spaceship, you will be long dead anyway 
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June 3rd, 2004, 01:40 AM
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Re: Semi OT: Spaceship Cockpits?
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Your links are dead (or more precisely wounded by Tripod ). Think you’re over your bandwidth limit.
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No, they work. Tripod is one of those sucky hosting companies that doesn't allow you to post a link to one of you images anywhere but on your webpage. If you copy+paste those links into the URL bar on your browser you'll be able to see them.
Taera, are those windows? I guess the white ones look kind of like windows, but they could be something else too. The red ones don't even look like windows to me.
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