OT-2001 ASO (includes spoiler)

psimancer · #1 June 15th, 2004, 01:15 AM

at the end of the movie 2001 dave bowman was brought through a process of metamorphasis into a new state of existence becoming a child on a par with the race that had been guiding humanity through the monoliths however it would be truly interesting if in actuality the starchild had initiated the program of raising humanity from the apes by sending the monoliths back into the past thus the product ofthe program becoming the creator of itself

geoschmo · #2 June 14th, 2004, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by Randallw:
ps. I am going to assume everyone realises HAL is IBM shifted backwards, HAL even says at the end he was created at HAL labs. Was Kubrick or Clarke unable to get IBM's permission?.

According to Clarke, that was merely a coincidence. It's quite possible that he's not being totally honest in his denial. It is a pretty amazing for a coincidence.

gregebowman · #3 June 14th, 2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:

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Originally posted by Randallw:
ps. I am going to assume everyone realises HAL is IBM shifted backwards, HAL even says at the end he was created at HAL labs. Was Kubrick or Clarke unable to get IBM's permission?.

According to Clarke, that was merely a coincidence. It's quite possible that he's not being totally honest in his denial. It is a pretty amazing for a coincidence.

IIRC, I read somewhere that it was intentional. As far as the ending of the movie, I have no clue. I've seen it so many times, but conclude that I need to take the same stuff that Kubrick and Clarke were using when they came up with that ending. The metamorphosis theory does seem right, though, if you try to intellectualize the movie. I've read all the books, but since the first book was a novelization of the movie and not actually the movie based on the book, I don't recall a very comprehensive ending. Maybe I'll have to reread it again, if I can find my copy.