OT: Canadian Federal Election

[tesco samoa]

Katchoo there are no Conservatives anymore... Unfortanty the Liberals are the closest thing to a tory now.

And that party reminds me of an american party. ( No offence to our strange neighbours to the south , east and north of me ) Lots of I believe and I believe

NDP gets in and were in deep trouble. .. Soccar Mom will help bring this country to its knees...

Bet we can hope for is a Tory minority that gets kicked out within 14 months... Cause they do not have their act together and their economic platform is just brutal.

[Renegade 13]

There are a couple of big reasons why I would vote Conservative:

#1: They're promising to get rid of the gun registry, which has been a screw up of epic proportions. And they're gonna replace it with a national sex offender registry, which to me sounds like a great idea.

#2: Their platform doesn't call for huge spending, like the NDP's does. Have you seen the figures?? 65 Billion in new spending. How are they going to get it back? TAXES!

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Captain Kwok:

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
You guys vote? I honestly didn't know that. I always thought that you guys went by the monarch system of government. He with the money rules.

Are you serious? I sometimes wonder what they teach in US schools of the world outside the US. I had my sister-in-law once tell me that the US was the only free country in the world.

No, we have a political system similar to that of the UK and other commonwealth countries.

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He just gotta be joking, but it'd be a bLast if he was serious!

Originally posted by Renegade 13:
There are a couple of big reasons why I would vote Conservative:

#1: They're promising to get rid of the gun registry, which has been a screw up of epic proportions. And they're gonna replace it with a national sex offender registry, which to me sounds like a great idea.

Hmm, give back the guns and tell the people where the sex offenders are, a way of solving overcrowding in prisons I suppose, but not the way I'd propose... (I'm not defendeing them but murder is a bit over the top, and I know that I'll get contradictions, won't anser those as this is an election thread.
Couldn't just not point out the connection there guns - offenders...)

[ June 19, 2004, 04:49: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Gun registry's do not stop criminals. Criminals do not register guns. And they are less likely to be caught with an unregistered gun. And the only way to be sure someone doesn't have an unregistered gun and is to do house-to-house sweeps.

Gun registry's are a stupid idea. As long as you have sales records and serial numbers, which we have in Canada, you have all you need to investigate spontanious crime.

Organized crime files the serial numbers off if it's gonna be used in a crime.

[TerranC]

We want the Canadian Gun Registry scrapped not because of what it's trying to do and its merit; we wanna scrap it because it has wasted 1 Billon Dollars (Canadian Funds) of our (the taxpayer's) money.

The Liberals deserve to be taken down a notch just for that alone.

Originally posted by Ruatha:
#1: They're promising to get rid of the gun registry, which has been a screw up of epic proportions. And they're gonna replace it with a national sex offender registry, which to me sounds like a great idea.

give back the guns and tell the people where the sex offenders are, a way of solving overcrowding in prisons I suppose, but not the way I'd propose... (I'm not defendeing them but murder is a bit over the top, and I know that I'll get contradictions, won't anser those as this is an election thread.
Couldn't just not point out the connection there guns - offenders...)

Edited: Typos and Format

Edit: to answer the renegade's question; If I had to vote (say, somebody put a gun to my head and forced me to vote), I would vote Conservative or NDP, but in reality, I wouldn't vote at all; I don't particularly see Stephen Harper as our prime minister, and I don't like their plan to get our own Version of the HMS Ocean when we should be thinking about replacing our equipement, not adding new ones to the maintenance queue. I think Tesco best described the NDP platform, and I'd rather jump into the St. Lawrence river than vote Parti Quebecois. I'd vote for the green party, if they got rid of that 20% gas tax, which they probably won't, and I wouldn't want the liberals to stay, unless I felt like going to LaSalle (Paul Martin's home riding) and personally give my pin numbers to let Paul Martin use them at his discretion so he could finance another report about anything about anyone three-fold.

[ June 19, 2004, 06:31: Message edited by: TerranC ]

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Captain Kwok:

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
You guys vote? I honestly didn't know that. I always thought that you guys went by the monarch system of government. He with the money rules.

Are you serious? I sometimes wonder what they teach in US schools of the world outside the US. I had my sister-in-law once tell me that the US was the only free country in the world.

No, we have a political system similar to that of the UK and other commonwealth countries.

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I r hiskul grduate.

[David E. Gervais]

Well, I'll be quick and to the point,..

Background Info: I live in Quebec and consider myself 100% Canadian. (FYI: An elglish speaking Canadian living in Quebec is at best a second class citizen and at worst we have the right to remain silent, anything we say can and will be used against us by the language police.)

Thoughts on the upcomming election,..

What about Paul Martin? (Liberal Leader) Well, I have nothing good to say about a man who goes out of his way to lie or avoid telling the truth. But maybe I shouldn't be too hard on him, he is a politician after all, and it's in their nature to be like that.

What about Gilles Duceppe? (Bloq Leader) Well, no federal politition should be allowed to run for Prime Minister of CANADA if all they have is a 'Provincial' adgenda. All Gilles talks about is making Quebec better off. But HELLO! Quebec is just one provence, he has yet to show any real interest in the rest of Canada. Not exactly my idea of what the Prime Minister of Canada should be.

What about Stephen Harper? (Conservative Leader) This one is easy,.. any politician that lists "Lower Taxes" as part of his campaign promises should be disgarded with extreme prejudice. The term "Lower Taxes" has allways proven to be the exact opposite. Don't believe me? Ok, vote for him, and when your taxes go up send an extra 3% my way for giving you this warning.

What about Jack Layton? (NDP Leader) Well, he walks, talks and acts like a very bad used car salesman. I just can't see myself buying anything from him. He's against the privatization of healthcare. Well, if you look at it as a way to replace the current healthcare then I'd have to agree. But if it is put in place to 'suppliment' the current healthcare. To give the people that pay high health insurance (Blue Cross etc, or happen to be in the middle to high income bracket) the option of going to a private hospital for their care. Well, I see no reason to prohibit that option. If all or most of the 'insured/rich' people went to private hospitals, the immediate effect would be to reduce waiting times in our current over-crowded hospitals. Canada's healthcare system is in serious trouble, spending wads of money to pay for 'overtime' in our hospitals to offset the long waiting periods is going to lead to dire consequences. We can't keep asking our healthcare givers to work 60+ hours/week indefinately. Eventually it will lead to burnout. The entire system will then collapse.(I'm sorry if I got a bit too verbose on this issue, but all four candidates don't seem to realise the gravity of our healthcare situation.)

So, with all this said, who am I going to vote for? Martin? Duceppe? Harper? Layton? Well, I guess there is no good choice this time, so I'll probably vote Liberal. The logic behind this is that although things will still get worse, I think they will get worse at a slightly slower pace with the Liberals. And, I can only hope that in 4 years my choices are better and a new candidate arrives with Canada's well being as his/her top priority.

I usually stay away from political threads, but I felt that it was about time you all got a better idea of my political views.

Have a great day, Cheers!

[ June 19, 2004, 11:34: Message edited by: David E. Gervais ]