Space Empires 101 - Galactic Council

[AMF]

If the Wendigo desire to opt out of the Galactic Council, the RCC will not stand in their way. It is their right. However, we beleive that the galactic council, serving as it should to resolve conflicts of interest peacefully, beleives it is in the interest of all powers and the quadrant to pursue these issues through the matter of the Council.

Furthermore, we do not disagree that allowing a concentration of power in the hands of the Security Council may be a unwise move. Although we make up a portion of the proposed Security Council, we hope (and propose) that the Security Council be, instead, the enforcement arm of the Galactic Council, and that the Galactic Council be ruled by majority decision, with voting based on population.

With that in mind, we reiterate that although we support the Wendigo desire to opt out of the Galactic Council, we beleive that their interests would be better served by having a voice in the workings of the COuncil and, furthermore, that we (the RCC) pledge to endeavour to bring about a solution to this issue that is acceptable to all involved.

As to the issue of colonies, aside from the territorial changes of our holdings that we have already mentioned (ie: ceding of two systems to Thermolia and relenquishment of all rights over Woostoid Woqua) we consider all current holdings to be soveriegn RCC territory. As far as our current maps indicate, there are no empty planets or asteroids in current RCC holdings. And, if there are, the colonizers that we had sent to Woostoid will be going to them soon, anyways. Our policy on this may change, once we get a better handle on what the former Dei-O holdings comprise, but that is our current stance.

Finally, we beleive that the Council should establish a planet, preferably in a relatively central location, upon which each member of the council would have its embassies and a diplomatic housing station. WE would be interested in hearing nominations for suitable planets, and we propose that each member of the council send a mobile shipyard to said planet (when the Council agrees where it is) to build a diplomatic station to house their delegates.

So, we repeat, we beleive the Galactic COuncil is the best venue for the Wendigo to take up their concerns, rather than dismiss it in it's nascent stage or risk marginalization.

RCC

OOC: Isn't politics cool? Frankly, I personally think its fascinating to see the interplay here...and I am very eager to see what happens in this game. There are plenty of issues that could be dealt with in a "galactic council" manner...and plenty of questions...could make for a very different sort of game, almost like play by committee...but I'll shut up now so I don't let my OOC biases influence all this...and, hey, I'm gone for the next five days, so perhaps by the time I get back the whole Galactic COuncil proposal will have been torpedoed by realpolitik...thanks, Alarik

[Joachim]

"We interupt this broadcast of Inter-Galactic Big Brother and cut to an unfolding news story":

The 3d hologram screen becomes shaky and slightly unclear...

A Dei Flag Admiral in full regalia appears in screen.

"I am Fleet Admiral Estekls of the Dei Liberation Organisation. The Dei Governement may have collapsed as a result of the Religious Zealots bent on the subjugation and destruction of the free peoples of this Quadrant, but we will not stand for their barabrism and will fight with all our means to remove the yoke of opression from all citizens of the Quadrant. We may be few in number now, but we call on all non-zealot races to rise up and destroy the threat to the galaxy that is the Cyber and Citizen evil empires.
We also have in our possesion a Lust class battleship - and we are ready to destroy a sun if thats what it takes.

Rise slaves, break the tyranny of the Religious ones - do not fall for the control and oppression that a galactic council will.. BZZZZZ Click.

"We apologise for this interuption to Inter-galactic big brother, stand by as we return to regular programming".

[Thermodyne]

Originally posted by TerranC:

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Originally posted by Wardad:
I will restrict my colonization to former Die-O and Electrum systems, including neighboring asteroid systems.

I would like to lodge to all who read here a formal request to refrain from colonizing planets in systems formerly controlled by Electrum, that are now in Wendigo control; as members of the alliance in which the wendigo are part of undoubtly know, although we have inherited vast planets and fleets with unimaginable power and riches, our planets are in chaos and in continous rioting, which has crippled our economy; we expect that we will need to colonize more planets within our systems once our current social problems subside, but we will not be able to do so, should some of our more aggresive allies decide to claim uninhabited planets in aforementioned systems, which to our estimation, will cause only unnecessary aggravation on both parties and, I am afraid to say, forced removal of, from this moment on we shall refer as, squatter colonies.

Although us Wendigo had not a big part in the removal of Electrum and the Deis, we believe we should rightfully receive what is now rightfully ours.

We have already recieved communication from the Cyber Collective demanding that we begin in earnest demilitarization and hand over one of our fleets, comprised of 60 to 70 warships for compensation. We have already responded that we will not stand for such attempts at subjugation from our own allies, and we say here that we will not stand for any further attempts from any other empire.

Although that we have just mentioned will now be the official policy of the Wendigo, we understand that many of our allies have had planets taken from them, ships and fleets destroyed by Electrum, and had put into effect immeasurable efforts to bring him down, and that they want to be recompensated for it. As of this moment, those nations that demand recompensation shall have their voices heard, and shall have what they demand, as long as they demand reasonably.

And pertaining to this council matter, the Wendigo, following our policy of neutrality and/or humanitarian participation, hereby declare that we will have no part with the Galactic Council, and declare that decisions of the Galactic Council shall have no effect in Wendigo space. However, we recognize the council's rights to the system of Woostroid Woqua, and shall follow the will of the council, according to our own discretion.

Shir-Khan Mustafa
Wendigo Pride

OoC: I'll be moving at the end of the month, so if you want your recompensation, ask now.

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Perhaps you would consider the sale of a portion of these fleets to Thermolia? While Thermolia has paid a terrible price in absorbing the main D-O attack, we are still quite solvent.

Thermolia is also in the market for a warp opener and a warp closer. Ours we for the most part lost in the effort to restrict the free movement of the D-O assault fleets.

[TerranC]

Originally posted by Thermodyne:
Perhaps you would consider the sale of a portion of these fleets to Thermolia? While Thermolia has paid a terrible price in absorbing the main D-O attack, we are still quite solvent

What do you propose? We are listening.

[AMF]

All,

The RCC government has returned from it's vacation, and would like to mention the follow to the Galactic COuncil

1)In our absence, one of our captains colonized a planet in the Woostoid system. We have just ordered that colony ceded to the THermolians as part of our effort to rejuvenate their economy.

2) In that same vein, we will cede to the Thermolians at least one warp-opening ship in the next month.

3) We would urge that the status of demilitarization and relations with non-COuncil members be taken up publicly, before relations further deteriorate.

4) Further to that, we beleive all Council deliberations should be held publicly, in this forum. While we fully expect private discussions amongst concerned parties, the deliberations of a council body should be public(OOC: and I'd be very dissappointed if there *wasn't* any plotting going on behind the scenes!)

RCC

[trooper]

I wonder what is plotting here...
Just been aware of the existence of this "council", and I see that Wendigo are quite talkative. I wonder why they haven't replied to my private Messages during the Last months, then.

First, let me tell you that I disagree with Wendigo demand for free access to systems once controled by infamous Electrum integrists.

They have never help us to fight them, and moreover they have always provided resources to our ennemies. So they should be glad to have received Electrum ships and planets, and should keep quiet at the moment.

I'll refer to members of the White Coalition for Peace and Wealth, to see if this place is a good place to discuss the galaxy issues.

For Peace and Wealth,
Sky Marechal Brunwick
Citizen Federation

[TerranC]

We of the Pride are not demanding that sole access to those be given to us, the wendigo; (I assume that's what you meant by free access) we are demanding that we be given ownership of them. Should you want the right to colonize those systems we have asked for, you shall recieve that right; we are only asking to the intergalactic community to recognize our right to give you that right by ways of barter and diplomacy.

It is true that we have not aided your nation and other nations militarily during your struggles against the Electrum Empire; and if I understood you correctly, yes, we did maintain diplomatic links and trade with Electrum, and in doing so, possibly the deis. But I ask you, my dear marshal, what would you have done in my position? Declare open war against Electrum, and sacrifice the entire pride to 100-strong dreadnought fleets of his? Do you really think we had a chance with our defunct police force of light cruisers against his armada? We nations that lack in force have in large quantities of wisdom; wisdom that has saved us from being a martyr to your so-called heroic struggle against Electrum and others. And you also say that we had supplied Electrum with our resources? I believe that you are mistaken, for nations that control 20 planets cannot logically feed the war machine of an empire that controls 100.

As for your Last statement regarding our outspokenness, marshal, with all due respect, you will hear our voice everywhere, and anywhere, and at anytime and at all times, until we are truly "glad".

Shir-Khan Mustafa
Wendigo Pride

Originally posted by trooper:
I wonder what is plotting here...
Just been aware of the existence of this "council", and I see that Wendigo are quite talkative. I wonder why they haven't replied to my private Messages during the Last months, then.

First, let me tell you that I disagree with Wendigo demand for free access to systems once controled by infamous Electrum integrists.

They have never help us to fight them, and moreover they have always provided resources to our ennemies. So they should be glad to have received Electrum ships and planets, and should keep quiet at the moment.

I'll refer to members of the White Coalition for Peace and Wealth, to see if this place is a good place to discuss the galaxy issues.

For Peace and Wealth,
Sky Marechal Brunwick
Citizen Federation

OoC: Alarikf, yes, politics are fun. I'd love to continue territorial disputes with just about everyone in the game, especially WarDad and Trooper , but unfortunatey, I'll be without internet access until July 12th, due to my moving of dwellings. I'll try to issue orders and queue up on things so that the game could run on schedule during my absence.

OoC: Trooper, what do you mean by PMs? I don't remember getting any PMs of yours?

[ June 29, 2004, 21:17: Message edited by: TerranC ]