OUCH! PLANETS ANGRY. PLEASE HELP!

[Hydraa]

I guess you took the neutral happiness type. It has a little better natural increase for happiness but almost everything you do is negative happiness. Including colonizing a world, any battle in system regardless of outcome, your ships in system or sector have zero influence on happiness, enemy ships are negative

Bloodthirsty also have a less happiness decrease for colonizing

[Suicide Junkie]

Suggestion: Ships in orbit will improve happiness. Perhaps you could build a bunch of escorts, park them in orbit and mothball them so they don't cost maintenance?

[gwmarks]

Thanks for the comments. This is still a bit weird.

I'm neutral. There are no colonies or other races in my home system, and just one allied ship in my second system.

I had no idea that just about everything you do as neutral negatively affects happiness. I don't see this in the manual!

The idea of producing and mothballing ships is intriguing. Are you sure that a mothballed ship increases happiness?

Does anyone know the relative impact of a orbiting ship versus troops?

How many troops would you put on a planet?

[Hydraa]

suicide junkie: It will not work for neutral happiness
from the .txt file for neutral
Our Ship in Sector := 0
Our Ship in System := 0
actually ships are bad in that
Any Ship Constructed := 1

The only 'postive' modifiers for neutrals are :
New Treaty Non Intercourse := -100
New Treaty None := -100
Our Troops on Planet := -2

and a natural decrease 2.5 times more than bloodthirsty or neutral.

[This message has been edited by Hydraa (edited 23 March 2001).]

[gwmarks]

Hydraa, can you tell me what is the scale for the numbers you refer to. How many points is it from angry to (is the next level "revolt"?).

If troops are -2, does is matter how many troops you garrison?

Also, orbiting ships make NO difference?

It looks as if the manual is positively misleading for neutral!

[Hydraa]

I will add in some more details later as I have been wondering about multiple troops myself.

The manual seems to have a piece of fine print imbedded in it
'Keep in mind that the Happiness Modifiers displayed below are for a "Peaceful" racial happiness type.'

[henk brouwer]

quote:

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Originally posted by Hydraa:
suicide junkie: It will not work for neutral happiness
from the .txt file for neutral
Our Ship in Sector := 0
Our Ship in System := 0
actually ships are bad in that
Any Ship Constructed := 1

The only 'postive' modifiers for neutrals are :
New Treaty Non Intercourse := -100
New Treaty None := -100
Our Troops on Planet := -2

and a natural decrease 2.5 times more than bloodthirsty or neutral.

[This message has been edited by Hydraa (edited 23 March 2001).]

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Also note that the natural decrease doesn't count for captured populations, they have a natural increase in anger, this makes it almost impossible to keep captured populations happy under a neutral happines regime. Building lots of troops is the only thing that really helps.( I'm quite sure that multiple troops give more happiness)

I like playing as a neutral because it makes the game more interesting, you have to be much more carefull in everything you do. accepting a treaty can make half your empire go into anarchy for example.. Even winning battles will make your people angry



[This message has been edited by henk brouwer (edited 23 March 2001).]