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July 30th, 2004, 03:47 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek: Enterprise
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...NO CONTINUITY TO TOS...
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Continuity to TOS...well to be honest, it's impossible. Does anyone else remember TOS episode where the Enterprise was hijacked by aliens, and taken towards another galaxy?? And the ship ended up doing like, warp 14 or 16 or something? Now, ever since TOS, there's been the arbitrary limit of warp 9.99 for a top speed (at least, up until Voyager, which of course had an episode where they broke that barrier, and travelled warp 10...but got some very odd side effects ) So the continuity has been shot ever since TNG began.
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July 30th, 2004, 04:39 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek: Enterprise
There are loads of continuity errors, but that isn't one of them.  The warp drive scale was 'adjusted' sometime in the decades prior to the TNG era. In TOS era used to be the cube of the warp factor was the number of times the speed of light you were moving. In the TNG era it's 3.3 instead of a flat 3, which already skews it so that Warp 9 in the new scale is much faster than Warp 9 in the old scale. But they also added some sort of 'open ended' asymptotic curve for speeds over Warp 9 so you really couldn't ever reach Warp 10.
But it's true that the Trek universe is a hopeless mess as far as internal consistency of science and technology. Paramount actually writes scripts based on story ideas and then asks technical 'consultants' make up the technology issues to fit the story! 
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July 30th, 2004, 05:44 AM
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In Voyager they once broke warp 10 and as a result Paris and the Captain turned into creatures and mated thus starting a new race of beings. UTTER CRAP! Episodes like these just made me sick.
As Warp engines improve, the scale changes. Eventually the scale will factor Transwarp into the equation.
Warp 1 - 9.9999999999999999999999999999999999999
Transwarp would be Warp 10 to 13.99999999999999999
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Re: OT: Star Trek: Enterprise
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...NO CONTINUITY TO TOS...
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Continuity to TOS...well to be honest, it's impossible. Does anyone else remember TOS episode where the Enterprise was hijacked by aliens, and taken towards another galaxy?? And the ship ended up doing like, warp 14 or 16 or something? Now, ever since TOS, there's been the arbitrary limit of warp 9.99 for a top speed (at least, up until Voyager, which of course had an episode where they broke that barrier, and travelled warp 10...but got some very odd side effects ) So the continuity has been shot ever since TNG began. This had to do with the Warp Scales that Baron mentioned. Remember the TOS episode where the travler took the Enterprise D to speeds beyond their ability to measure? Warp barrier is just an arbatrary thing. Its like saying cars will never be able to go faster than 100 mph, then 200 mph, and so on. Hey what is the new land speed record now? Isn't it like 320 mph or something?
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July 30th, 2004, 06:15 AM
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Re: OT: Star Trek: Enterprise
Nope. Someone built a rocket car that broke the sound barrier a few years back, and he didn't die. 
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July 30th, 2004, 02:12 PM
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Re: OT: Star Trek: Enterprise
As far as continuity issues, heck, they had them during the TOS, let alone with the other series. For those who didn't know, Kirk's middle initial was originally R. Then a couple of episodes later, it became T for Tiberius, and that's what he's been known as since. I guess it sound better than James R. Kirk.
But as far as Enterprise (from the episodes I've seen), there still isn't much to show what will happen in 100 years. They introduced the new style Klingon, still with no explanation as to who or what the original Klingons were. But they've introduced the Andorians, which became one of the founding races of the Federation. They mentioned the Tellarites, but I still haven't seen one yet. And Earth's first contact with the Romulans went differently than I thought it would. It would be nice if they showed a young Sarek, Spock's dad. I'll keep trying to watch it, but I don't expect too much in the way of continuity with TOS.
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August 30th, 2004, 03:06 PM
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Re: OT: Star Trek: Enterprise
For those who just love trek... TOS DVD set one comes out soon.
And the extended edition of Generations comes out soon as well
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