Semi-OT: We will go to Stars.

se5a · #1 July 19th, 2004, 09:20 PM

yes, I have wonderd about that also Makinus...
what IS not moveing? the speed of light ralitive to what?

Makinus · #2 July 19th, 2004, 09:25 PM

ole: can you point to me where i can get more information about the theories i mentioned? i read them somewhere on the net and they looked pretty solid theories, but if i�m wrong i want to know why i�m wrong...

i really believe that someday we will be able to create a way to travel with FTL speeds, and the main reason that i believe this is because what everyone said when some loonies told that breaking the sound barrier was possible...

what they told? They told that it would be "impossible".

Never underestimate human inventiveness.... even if our gran-gran-grandchildren don�t do it, it will be done someday...

sachmo · #3 July 19th, 2004, 09:35 PM

Faster than light may be impossible, but I don't see how anyone can know that absolutely.

Alneyan · #4 July 19th, 2004, 09:37 PM

Ah, but the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy provides with the perfect answer to this problem. Let's see: there is nothing faster than light, save for bad news, whose speed is subject to completely different laws (*). Such are the words of wisdom contained in the Guide.

Therefore, a vessel powered by bad news would be able to travel at a unpareled speed. Alas, this cannot be tested in practice because of the effect of such an energy source on the crew; depression occurs too early, as nobody can watch such a flow of bad news without losing all faith in the universe.

(*Feel free to provide the actual quote from the Guide about the speed of bad news)

oleg · #5 July 19th, 2004, 09:40 PM

Well, I was educated on Landau & Liftschich Physics course. For English speakers I can only recomend Feinman course on physics - it is quite solid.

As to idiotic comparison of Sound and Light barriers - this is really sickening. No physist ever objected to traveling faster than sound - bullets and shells did it 100 years before that. It was an engeeniring problem, not theoretical. FTL is different. Please do not make cheep and idiotic comparison.

dmm · #6 July 19th, 2004, 09:44 PM

[decloaks]
I am from the future. It can be done.
[cloaks]

oleg · #7 July 19th, 2004, 09:47 PM

Anyway, back from FTL to the real world.

There is nothing prohibitive with light speed limit, it is our limited and very short life span that makes space travel so daunting. Just call our year a month and imagine you still live 70*12 of new months and you will realize that travel to Sirius is just a cruise.