OMG: The Revenge of the Sith - Page 5

Kamog · #41 July 29th, 2004, 02:15 AM

I have not seen the revised Episode IV, but I do seem to remember that in the original one, Han shoots first and the other guy was not pointing a weapon or anything, just talking.

Randallw · #42 July 29th, 2004, 02:31 AM

I think C3PO will at least have his memory wiped since he can't keep his mouth shut. R2D2 might as well, but I think maybe not. He can't talk normally but I get the impression he is much more in the know than C3PO. He knows all this stuff but keeps his mouth shut. As for Han shooting first, of course he did. Han didn't become a succesful smuggler by sticking to the rules. Greedo said he was going to either kill Han or take him to Jabba (who isn't exactly happy with him) so Han does whats necessary. If he had known Greedo would be the one to find him he would have hidden in the shadows and shot Greedo in the back when he wasn't looking. You can be the loveable rogue without being a goody two shoes

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Kamog · #43 July 29th, 2004, 02:49 AM

One thing I don't understand from episodes I and II is, if Senator Palpatine is the Sith Lord, why don't the Jedi sense the dark side in him? I assumed that Palpatine is able to hide his power somehow.

Or maybe there's some sort of trick where Palpatine is actually not Darth Sidius, but a clone?

Also, the rule about only two Siths existing at one time doesn't sound like such a good idea. There's a master and an apprentice, and that's it? So the master has to die before the apprentice can call himself the new master and take on a new apprentice.

Phoenix-D · #44 July 29th, 2004, 02:52 AM

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Originally posted by Kamog:
only two Siths existing at one time doesn't sound like such a good idea. There's a master and an apprentice, and that's it? So the master has to die before the apprentice can call himself the new master and take on a new apprentice.

Actually I think the "tradition" works more like the apprentice killing the master off (or vice versa..) then getting a new apprentice.

Atrocities · #45 July 29th, 2004, 03:09 AM

What happened to Grand Moff Tarkin? In Star Wars he was the Emperors top military commander and in charge of the Death Star. No mention of him in PM, or AOTC, and I doubt he will be in ROTS.

This leaves a bit whole for which Lucas should fall in and drown.

Kamog · #46 July 29th, 2004, 03:17 AM

Why did Obi-Wan and Yoda disappear when they died in episodes IV and VI, but none of the Jedi who died in episodes I and II disappeared?

If I were a Sith master, I would never get an apprentice! It would just be too dangerous!

Randallw · #47 July 29th, 2004, 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
What happened to Grand Moff Tarkin? In Star Wars he was the Emperors top military commander and in charge of the Death Star. No mention of him in PM, or AOTC, and I doubt he will be in ROTS.

This leaves a bit whole for which Lucas should fall in and drown.

Tarkin is indeed in ROTS, this is a fact as there are pictures of the actor wearing makeup to make him look exactly as a young Tarkin (its on Hyperspace though so I havn't seen it myself, but it exists). He's a Republic navy officer who will get in the Emperors good books.

Randallw · #48 July 29th, 2004, 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by Kamog:
One thing I don't understand from episodes I and II is, if Senator Palpatine is the Sith Lord, why don't the Jedi sense the dark side in him? I assumed that Palpatine is able to hide his power somehow.

In AOTC Yoda and Mace Windu decide it is time to tell the senate that their ability to detect the dark side is limited these days. I know a lot more but after typing it I deleted it because there may be some people who don't want to hear spoilers.

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"If I were a Sith master, I would never get an apprentice! It would just be too dangerous"

The Sith are not evil individuals looking for their own power. They are a secret evil force Users intending to conquer the galaxy. They have been sneaking about for 1000 years, they need to have apprentices so the plan can continue. 2 Sith are harder to discover and with only 2 Sith the dark side is less diluted (compare thousands of Jedi sharing the "good bits" versus 2 supervillains with half the Dark side each). For 1000 years Sith have been planning knowing they personally will not see the victory but knowing that some day the Republic will be conquered.

[ July 29, 2004, 03:27: Message edited by: Randallw ]

Fyron · #49 July 29th, 2004, 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by Kamog:
I have not seen the revised Episode IV, but I do seem to remember that in the original one, Han shoots first and the other guy was not pointing a weapon or anything, just talking.

This is true. In the special edition, Greedo fires first and misses Han, who then shoots and kills Greedo. Crappy political correctness garbage...

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Originally posted by Kamog:
Why did Obi-Wan and Yoda disappear when they died in episodes IV and VI, but none of the Jedi who died in episodes I and II disappeared?

Because the force was no longer a mystical/magical force in I and II, but debased to the mitichlorian crap.

[ July 29, 2004, 03:48: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

gregebowman · #50 July 29th, 2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by Randallw:

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Originally posted by Kamog:
One thing I don't understand from episodes I and II is, if Senator Palpatine is the Sith Lord, why don't the Jedi sense the dark side in him? I assumed that Palpatine is able to hide his power somehow.

In AOTC Yoda and Mace Windu decide it is time to tell the senate that their ability to detect the dark side is limited these days. I know a lot more but after typing it I deleted it because there may be some people who don't want to hear spoilers.

Edit:
"If I were a Sith master, I would never get an apprentice! It would just be too dangerous"

The Sith are not evil individuals looking for their own power. They are a secret evil force Users intending to conquer the galaxy. They have been sneaking about for 1000 years, they need to have apprentices so the plan can continue. 2 Sith are harder to discover and with only 2 Sith the dark side is less diluted (compare thousands of Jedi sharing the "good bits" versus 2 supervillains with half the Dark side each). For 1000 years Sith have been planning knowing they personally will not see the victory but knowing that some day the Republic will be conquered.

There was a Sith war back 4000 years before the current Star Wars saga. So the Sith have been around for quite awhile. Unfortunately, you get so many Sith in the same room, and they think they're the one who's going to rule, and so start killing each other. So eventually the 2 Sith rule came around. This was explained in one of the novels, but I don't remember which one.