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November 1st, 2000, 06:37 AM
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Re: Mining an enemy planet
You cannot detect that the mines are there until the treaty is broken or another race with no treaty goes into that sector and somehow tells you about it, that could happen with human players but not the computer players. Of course you may wonder why such and such a races ships always dissapear when they try to go through that warp point while you go through with no problems. As long as the treaty is on the mines are invisible I think I may be wrong but I have had other races mine places and I never saw the mines untill they were triggered.
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November 1st, 2000, 03:43 PM
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Re: Mining an enemy planet
True, but unless you have serious cloaking tech, the ship that lays them is not. I know I would be very curious about a minelaying ship that just happens to come visiting. Wouldn't you?
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November 1st, 2000, 05:53 PM
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Re: Mining an enemy planet
Sounds like a good use for the scanner tech. Without it, you can't look at their ship designs, IIRC, without entering tactical combat.
OTOH, in a multi-player game, you should probably be paranoid about ANY "allied" ships hanging around in your space -- be they minelayers, planetary bombers, or simply ship-killers...
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November 1st, 2000, 05:59 PM
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Re: Mining an enemy planet
Then I guess the fix should be to make mines visible. This seems to be a pretty serious loophole.
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November 1st, 2000, 06:42 PM
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Re: Mining an enemy planet
It would be really interesting to have mines that you can trigger remotely. That way you could trigger them after combat if dropped during combat, or if the "mined" planet builds a ship. Damage would be less because it was not a direct impact. The damage would also be applied to all ships in the sector, regardless of empire.
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November 1st, 2000, 07:45 PM
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Re: Mining an enemy planet
Hmmm - am I understanding this correctly? Your mines are invisible to all the other races, even if you have a treaty with them?
Nasty!
I was going to suggest that at Last your treaty partners should be able to detect them, but I'm starting to like this idea!
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November 1st, 2000, 09:58 PM
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Re: Mining an enemy planet
If you look at their description they are invisible to a level 5 scan. I don't know if you can get that high in the demo because I haven't bothered with scanners yet. I do hope that you will be able to detect them in the full Version with the appropriate technology. Of course its much quicker to research mines than the detection research would be so mines will be virtually undetectable for a long time in a low technology start.
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