Intergalactic Civil War !!??

[Puke]

UNION STRIKE!

all planets / ships / bases with space yards break away from your empire.

if that is overly harsh, how about every planet with some other facility? or maybe 1yr after you research SY-2, each place with a SY-1 has a chance to break off.

[chewy027]

Puke, nice name , this one seems a little harsh to me. Maybe if you are capable of level 3 of some facility but only have level ones then there could be a small chance for revolt. But probably a better way to implement this would be to have a happiness decrease which would eventually lead to revolt and civil war if not taken care of. This way your good idea could be implemented but not so harshly .

Baal, you little devil, this idea is real good but seems dangerous to me. I guess to some players it would be as you say, but to the less timid than it would provide incentive to not become MEE. But i do like the idea and it should be a trigger. Lets keep developing it.

Thoughts?

[Lucanos]

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Originally posted by chewy027:
Thoughts?

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This discussion makes me think about my earlier repelling emotions towards the AI ANGER.

"Like if you are going through the galaxy glassing every alien planet you should have a rebellion, it only makes sense that people would not like genocide."
-Baal

I totally agree - shouldn't there also be an empire genocide trigger that would affect the MEE anger.

"You're not evil just because you are big."
-Lucanos (first time I ever quoted myself)

[jc173]

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Originally posted by Baal:
I don't think it should be an incentive to not become MEE. It's more like an egg timer, it gives you an amount of time to do the Mega-Evil thing or you are back to square one with another empire out there that is just as bad *** as you.

It gives purpose to try to win fast or as I said you are back to square one.

As for the splitting of the empire. It should calculate your size and split you into multipul pieces accordingly. And even better it's coded to give the human player the smallest alotment of planets/ships/stuff.

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Personally I don't think this necessarily makes sense. What if I am a bloodthirsty empire that enjoys war? How would the other races regard your breakaway republics? Personally I don't really like this idea, I hate it when games try to force me into finishing the game in a set amount of time for no real discernable reason. I would suggest if MM includes this feature, include a flag to turn it off.

The other thing is I don't totally agree with the MEE idea. While there should be some trigger that makes the computer realize you are a threat, just having a large empire should not be a bad thing. If you implement this empire split up you are essentially penalizing the player for doing well.

[This message has been edited by jc173 (edited 07 April 2001).]

[This message has been edited by jc173 (edited 07 April 2001).]

[chewy027]

JC173 I agree with your statement

"The other thing is I don't totally agree with the MEE idea. While there should be some trigger that makes the computer realize you are a threat, just having a large empire should not be a bad thing. If you implement this empire split up you are essentially penalizing the player for doing well."

It would be like being penalized for doing well but maybe we could change the parameters for being MEE and then implement this trigger.

Also, do you not like the Civil War idea or just the MEE trigger?

Thoughts?



[This message has been edited by chewy027 (edited 07 April 2001).]

[Trachmyr]

As an addendum to my earlier post:

As for ships that join the new empire, only vessels in systems that now have planets of the new empire have a chance to convert. All ships in the same sector as a planet, retain the loyalty of that planet... ships in sectors with out planets have a chance to convert equal to: (# of planets converted in system) out of (# of planets loyal + # of planets converted).

As to a MEE like trigger dor civil war, I would not want that implemented.

As for Genocide, that should be made a new line in Happiness.txt (?) (you know: Bloodthirsty, Peaceful, Neutral)... some races wouldn't care, some would be upset, others would cheer.

[chewy027]

Thanks Trachmyr. I'll update the overview. Keep the ideas coming.