Intergalactic Civil War !!??

[jimbob]

Quote: "2) After one planet "breaks away", then each other planet in the system is checked to
see if they join... All Rioting/angry planets join 100% of the time, unhappy/Displeased planets join 50% of the time, Indiffrent planets join 25% of the time (happier planets do not join)."

This I like. Simple ratios, very straight forward. Results in a nice cascading effect. Indifferent and displeased planets actually matter.

I'd add :
i) that any ships in orbit and troops on ground will decrease the probability of rebellion by a small arbitrary %
ii) if the planet contains aliens the probability of rebellion goes up by a significant but arbitrary %
iii) any troops on/ships orbiting a successfully rebelling planet defect to the rebels! (maybe a small % are loyal, so self destruct/disband?).

Thus, keeping control by military force is a large gamble. I think many military coups go something like this... the army is built up by a nasty dictator until they realize that they have so much power that they're really in control. Sometimes they grab power for the people but devolve into the power institution themselves. Usually they just grab power for themselves.

[Tenryu]

While I like the idea of some planets breaking away from the 'mother' empire, I am not sure what they should do after that.

Become a neutral race?

or, more interestingly,
turn violently against their former oppessor(you).

That could be cute. Build a huge intergalactic empire, then end up fighting yourself. LOL!

[ 01 December 2001: Message edited by: Tenryu ]

[chewy027]

actually that question is addressed. Just have to find it in the summary Tenryu

[ZeroAdunn]

I like the first setup, I vote for keeping section 4 of the idea. I agree that if a planet has an alien race on it it should be more likely to rebel or join a rebelion (possibly 25% modifier)

Some ideas:

Every turn a system goes without a spaceport it should become 5% more likely to rebell (they don't feel like a part of the empire.)

This would also be great if you could establish a colony as an outpost instead (can only build 1 or 2 facilities) but the planet cannot rebel and can only hold so many colonists)

[ 01 December 2001: Message edited by: ZeroAdunn ]

[chewy027]

zero what do you mean by section four. If your refering to the summary there are lots of 4th points. I guess i'm just asking for a little clarity And The spaceport idea is good too

[Skulky]

I totally agree with this idea, probably one of the best out there, there should be the ability to research special units that can be built on a planet/transported there that are 'police,' then you can repress riots. The police could be ordered to ensure order or repress people, would effect happiness but could hold an alien race in line until you can move them off to step two of my idea, a 'prision colony/base' where they could be held for a year or so until they are properly adjusted.
Also, the empire that would be spawned by the revolt would be at a disadvantage (usually, especially if created by an enourmous intel project (100,000-800,000 points)) and then would be easily overrrun. HOwever, int he pattern of the COld War CIA you could offer assistance tothe rebels in the form of ships/money and recognize them as the ligit gov't. this would naturally piss of the gov't they revolted from. If you chose not to recognize them they would be pissed at you and the gov't they revolted from would like you, this could be an interesting situation (Arab/Israeli today where many countries wouldnt' recognize Israel for a long time).

Great thread, keep it up.

[chewy027]

skulky a police unit would be pretty cool. It would be a good way to keep pops in line. Lets say the trigger for a civil war is one of the ones discussed below in the summary, this would be another way to prevent the trigger. Have some police units stationed on each planet. They could also provide a base defense against invasions. I think this would be a little more realistic then the present militia. Anyway good thought I'll have to add it the summary along with the spaceport idea by zeroadunn