Be patient!

[Freyland]

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Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
Jason2: I can understand your frustration, because I agree with you, about that the AI must be improved (hey, have you played the first demo? hehehehe, the current AI is Einstein compared with the first Versions!).

But... seems to be that you don't knew about Malfador and the SE series before SE4. Malfador (or should say Aaron?), always listened their fans in the past, and I'm sure about that they will continue working with the game during a long time, killing bugs and adding more features to the game.

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Ummm... Hello? Reality check, please. You can be thankful that your game's developer is adept and frequent with patching, but that joy is completely out-weighed by the fact that SOME THINGS SHOULD NOT NEED FREQUENT PATCHING! LIKE THE FUNDAMENTAL AI! THIS IS WRONG!!! If the game is not complete, DON'T SELL IT AS A COMPLETE GAME!!

sheesh

Jonathan

[Voidhawk]

Dr. Freyland I presume?

It's Koth from the Warlords Battlecry forum here. Given up on multiplayer WBC yet?

Don't worry, MM has the same reputation for quality patches as SSG does. I could also complain that I bought an incomplete game, but I just wouldn't feel right seeing as I've already enjoyed the hell out of it well past the 30 hour mark, which is more entertainment than I usually get out of "complete" games. I anticipate very little spare time away from my computer once the AI starts kicking my butt (I don't think I've ever been so anxious to lose...).

Remember all the crap Steve and the SSG guys caught over the pre-patch WBC AI? Same thing here, and I'm sure MM will come through with some quality stuff much in the same way SSG did. Keep the faith!

[Freyland]

Hi Koth

Nice to see you again!

Be well, Dr's orders!

Jonathan

[Richard]

One thing to remember guys is that sometimes late changes to a game can break other features.

Also frequently a game may have been working fine for most testers but then we get it to the larger audience (who play differently) and suddenly you guys have problems with the game.

We'll get there guys....

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Sarge is coming...

Richard Arnesen
Director of Covert Ops
Shrapnel Games
http://www.shrapnelgames.com

[Jourin]

MM has been working on this for a long time. MM didn't want to release the game until it was finished so the date kept on being pushed back. This summer, many of the fans put a lot of pressure on MM to release the game early. Some comments were - we don't care about bugs or features just release the game. The general consensus was release the game even if it was missing parts as long as it had no obvious bugs. Yes, the game was released early, but WE demanded that MM release it early. The same pressure felt by all major gaming companies. The big difference is that MM supports its games after release while most other companies just take your money and run. I don't pre-order games, but I did pre-order SEIV because I know MM will continue to support the game and fix the problems - look at the SEIII support.

Some advice: Play the game and learn its depth even with the weak AI

Don't put pressure on MM to release Beta Versions of the patches.

Don't spend a lot of time trying to fix the game yourself. Unlike other companies, MM WILL support the game and fix the problems and not depend on the customers to fix the problems.

Do send MM suggestions. If you think you have found a way to fix some of the problems through customer modifications, send them to MM - maybe you have an idea they did not think off.

The best games are the one's built for the customer. MM will listen to the community and try to build this game for us, unlike most other gaming companies who take our money and run.

Be patient! This game will be a keeper to rival Civilization. Trust MM to get it right. They have in the past and they will with this game.

With all the complaining this current Version is better than BOTF and Imperial Galactic II combined - both of which had NO support after release. SEIV is better plus it has support!

So relax and enjoy the game and be patient.

PS: I do not work for MM, I am not a beta tester. I am just a fan who appreciates the quality work MM has done and wishes ALL other companies (Microprose, Activision, Frixas,etc) would follow MM's example.

The only one's who can ruin this game is us the community by being too impatient.

Merry Christmas.

[Mephisto]

[quote]Originally posted by Jourin:
[b]MM has been working on this for a long time. MM didn't want to release the game until it was finished so the date kept on being pushed back. This summer, many of the fans put a lot of pressure on MM to release the game early. Some comments were - we don't care about bugs or features just release the game.[quote]

That's right, I can remember that.

[quote]Some advice: Play the game and learn its depth even with the weak AI.[quote]

Fight the AI in strategic combat and it is much more even ground.

[quote]Don't spend a lot of time trying to fix the game yourself. Unlike other companies, MM WILL support the game and fix the problems and not depend on the customers to fix the problems.[quote]

That's the reason why I only modify races. I feel to much bound to honor MMs great work (and it's testing for game balance) to touch other files and add new tech or components.

[quote]Do send MM suggestions. If you think you have found a way to fix some of the problems through customer modifications, send them to MM - maybe you have an idea they did not think off.[quote]

Did that.

[quote]Be patient! This game will be a keeper to rival Civilization.[quote]

Funny, I mailed them the same.

[quote]So relax and enjoy the game and be patient.[quote]

I very much do.

I think SE4 will be on my PC for a looooonnnnnggggg time. And at the end of the weak I will start a 10 player PBEM!

[Comar]

I would echo the sentiments of being patient. The beta testers have been playing this for months and we have seen the vast improvement in the game during that time. I truly believe that you have not seen anything yet. And if the AI isn't enough of a challenge, play it multiplayer. I find that much harder than the AI, regardless of how good the AI is.

Also, as noted before, using the strategic combat option evens the odds out greatly. I think the AI is configured for that and gets its best performance in that mode.