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December 16th, 2000, 05:13 PM
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Re: Strange Mods Anyone?
Now that's annoying. If all these weird combinations work, why can't you make a research component or an intel component that contribute to your empire totals? These sector abilities should NOT be usable on components, they are space "terrain" features. Most of the facility abilities that SHOULD be useable on components are not. That's interesting that population happiness works, though. You could make a "Psychological Warfare" ship and send it with your fleets.  Or, make a "Propaganda" ship and use it to calm your own rioting populations. Cute.
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December 16th, 2000, 09:08 PM
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Re: Strange Mods Anyone?
Well I wouldn't expect to play this stuff against the computer as it would never be able to use it properly. It would be for making things interesting between human players cause some of the things I can come up with have weird side effects and are complicated in to use in game play. And you'll notice that I'm not suggesting anything game beaking neither. As long as it's balanced, then why not?
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December 16th, 2000, 09:57 PM
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Re: Strange Mods Anyone?
How about weapons that increase damage with range, or weapons that do damgage only on odd or even spaces?
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December 16th, 2000, 10:36 PM
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Re: Strange Mods Anyone?
Sounds interesting Lupus, can't wait to see them !
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December 17th, 2000, 08:55 PM
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Re: Strange Mods Anyone?
Hrmmm.
- Do those happiness-affecting components affect your opponent's colonies, or just your own?
- Terraforming ships would be cool, but I don't recall any applicable abilities; you'd need a sector-wide terraformer (the religious system-wide Versions, even if possible, would probably only affect already-colonized planets I'd think, and would be much too powerful if they didn't). I'd love to have ships capable of transforming atmospheres or improving conditions *before* I colonize.
- Maybe fighters should get a kamikaze warhead variant that hits only engines, given Small Weapons, Explosives, and Engine-Destroying Weapons. Hey, if you're gonna die, make it count... Right now, between Rocket Pod III's and Kamikaze Warhead III's, it's pretty much the pods, hands-down. Likewise, maybe they should get small tachyon beams (IIRC, the weapon-destroying weapons) given the appropriate tech; they're manueverable enough to get in close and target the guns.
- On the minefields -- does one ship set off the entire field, because even 100 mines won't kill it?
- Missiles that destroy computers (using the same ability as the Computer Virus) might be interesting; call 'em EMP missiles. (although... don't you need an atmosphere for an EM pulse to occur? I'm not a nuclear physicist, so maybe not...). Obvious pre-reqs would be Missiles (Ion-pulse missiles should probably require this field as well...) and Computer Combat.
- Maybe an RoF 0 weapon, range 1, point-defense, +20 to hit, 50-damage weapon? The intent would be an anti-seeker/fighter 'defense field' that seekers and fighters would have to pass through (well, not the fighters if they're smart...) Dunno if RoF 0 would work, 'tho. Would have to be expensive and high-tech (say, PD 6,7,8 w/ varying +hit, dam) if it works.
- Re: your component that draws in enemy ships: I think this will affect minefields, as well. It'll probably be VERY powerful, actually, especially in a black-hole sector (move so that the black hole is between it and the enemy fleet), or in a cloaked minelayer. That other black-hole ability, weakening shields, might also be a bit too powerful except as a racial tech for scenarios (e.g. a high-tech AI race with foo that suppresses shields).
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December 18th, 2000, 12:20 AM
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Re: Strange Mods Anyone?
Instar, I am making some huge tech mod and have already implemented weaponst that do more damage on long ranges. They are kinetic weapons and are in Kinetic Technology tech tree (it is a special tech like organic and crystal). I was also considering to add a Matter Attractor facility that will work as black hole in the system.
Btw, I have already tested those weapons and they work great.
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December 18th, 2000, 01:25 AM
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Re: Strange Mods Anyone?
On the engine minefield thing, it's true that it only takes one ship to set off all the mines. But if there is a fleet, all the ships get hit.
I thought that would make the mines loose their effectiveness, but it doesn't change much. Since the enemy ships have lost all movement after coming through a warp point for example.
Just keep a mine layer nearby and go into the sector after the mines are gone (with the disabled ships). Sure it intiates combat, but the enemy ships can't chase after you. So you lay your mines anyway.
What I like to do actually is go in with a couple psychic converters and a repair ship. Free fleet anyone?
Obviously there are a couple ways around that. You could send in a front ship to take the mines out. Or send through a carrier, and release the fighters even though the carrier gets stranded.
But it's good because there has to be certain drawbacks to every comp specific weapon out there.
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