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Old April 4th, 2001, 12:52 PM

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Default Re: \"Allegiance Subverter\" for master computer ?

I have to say I disagree. As it stands each option, master computer or live crew, has one major vulnerability. Adding an alliegance subverter for master computers would, I think, be overpowering for those races with the psychic special ability and would be unbalancing in general as using a master computer at all would be less of an intelligent choice (i.e. 2 vulnerabilities to 1, the ratio vs. live crew).
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Old April 5th, 2001, 01:26 AM

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Default Re: \"Allegiance Subverter\" for master computer ?

Can't you use the allegiance subverter on a ship after the master computer is destroyed?
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Old April 5th, 2001, 01:58 AM

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Default Re: \"Allegiance Subverter\" for master computer ?

Yes, if the master computer is destroyed the whole ship is disabled and you can get it :-)
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Default Re: \"Allegiance Subverter\" for master computer ?

Yup, hence the use of "Computer Virus"
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Default Re: \"Allegiance Subverter\" for master computer ?

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Yes, if the master computer is destroyed the whole ship is disabled and you can get it :-)


When you say 'disabled', do you mean TOTALLY disabled? ..as in no movement points, no weapons firing, etc.? I seem to remember having a ship without an MC (or Bridge, Crew Q's and Life Supt) and still having 1 movement point. (or maybe I'm not remembering something right).
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Old April 4th, 2001, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: \"Allegiance Subverter\" for master computer ?

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Yes, if the master computer is destroyed the whole ship is disabled and you can get it :-)


Well I really did not think of that but you are perfectly right!! I always believed that the Allegiance Subverter works only on ships with crews, but really it does not work only on ships with a intact master computer and that's a big difference. And it gives the psychic trait a very interesting appeal for AI empires!
Under this circumstances I withdraw my idea as unnecessary. Thank you very much for this information.
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When you say 'disabled', do you mean TOTALLY disabled? ..as in no movement points, no weapons firing, etc.? I seem to remember having a ship without an MC (or Bridge, Crew Q's and Life Supt) and still having 1 movement point. (or maybe I'm not remembering something right).


The movement is reduced to 1 but weapons still function normal as far as I can tell.
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