.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $5.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V > SEIV > Space Empires: IV Classic Threads (Newbie FAQS)

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old October 16th, 2001, 05:40 PM
Rollo's Avatar

Rollo Rollo is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Kiel, Germany
Posts: 1,896
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rollo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Play by web guide

quote:
Originally posted by Mudshark:
... BTW who is considered the best player at this point, both SEIII and IV, knowing my luck the one I declared war against Last turn! LOL


I have suggested in the PBW forum to set up a hall of fame. This might be fun and you can tell the veterans from the rookies .

Any takers?

Rollo
__________________
SE4
Devnull Mod Gold:
Version 1.80
Dungeon Odyssey:
Hack and Slash
Version 0.53e
  #2  
Old October 17th, 2001, 04:00 AM
Puke's Avatar

Puke Puke is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: california
Posts: 2,961
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Puke is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Play by web guide

if not a hall of fame, you can at least gleam a little something from who wins Geo's elimination tourney. i think it has about two more rounds to go, so it should be done sometime next year
__________________
...the green, sticky spawn of the stars
(with apologies to H.P.L.)
  #3  
Old October 17th, 2001, 04:27 AM
geoschmo's Avatar

geoschmo geoschmo is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,450
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post
geoschmo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Play by web guide

quote:
Originally posted by Puke:
if not a hall of fame, you can at least gleam a little something from who wins Geo's elimination tourney. i think it has about two more rounds to go, so it should be done sometime next year
The only thing you'll be able to tell from that is who did the best job in the tourney out of the 24 players that started it.

That's a far cry from saying that person is the best SEIV player.

Geo
__________________
I used to be somebody but now I am somebody else
Who I'll be tomorrow is anybody's guess
  #4  
Old October 17th, 2001, 05:12 AM
Puke's Avatar

Puke Puke is offline
Lieutenant General
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: california
Posts: 2,961
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Puke is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Play by web guide

well, if there was a ladder, there would have to be an option to setup certain games as 'non ladder.'

for example, it would have been honest to call the first furball game a 'fair' game, while calling furball2 fair would be complete bull**** just because of the nature of the game and the map. it would probably be desireable to not count games like that in peoples rankings. and games like the End of the Universe (theres an opening in that one, by the way) would not get players because EVERYONE DIES when the universe ends! it would mess up everyones rank.

besides, keeping score between games encourages things like people throwing games to improve someones rank, or playing dummy games against fake people.. its best just to play for fun i think, and not to wory about who is the top dog on the heap.

------------------
"...the green, sticky spawn of the stars"
(with apologies to H.P.L.)

edit: although a hall of fame for who turns in the fastest turns, now THAT would be handy. maybe a comment system like ebay where other players could post things in your profile: "that bastard betrayed our alliance!" or "This guy drives a dreadnaught like its my grandmothers OldsMobile!" or "the sick jerk keeps making throw-up jokes"

[This message has been edited by Puke (edited 17 October 2001).]
__________________
...the green, sticky spawn of the stars
(with apologies to H.P.L.)
  #5  
Old October 17th, 2001, 07:40 AM

Dragonlord Dragonlord is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 287
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Dragonlord is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Play by web guide

I like the idea of a hall of fame.
Maybe it should just record how many serious (fairly standard) PBW games you were in, and how you did. If you wanted to be on this list, you'd have to tell the list maintainer which games you won (or were 2nd, 3rd or whatever in), AND you should get a few of the people you beat to attest that you did in fact win that game. (they would, if they were honorable, and enjoyed the game).
I know that still sounds flawed and could probably be abused somehow...but maybe it's a start?
  #6  
Old October 17th, 2001, 04:32 PM
Rollo's Avatar

Rollo Rollo is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Kiel, Germany
Posts: 1,896
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rollo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Play by web guide

Puke and Dragonlord,
I will answer to your Posts about the Hall of Fame in a new thread, so we don't get off-topic here.

My pieces of (limited) wisdom for PBW:

1. Advanced Storage trait. Consider taking it. All your (home)worlds will have 20% more facilities. Very valuable for a good start. Besides that you can ship population from your homeworlds without losing the production bonus, because there will be 4800 instead of 4000M people.
2. If you find a player with the same planet type/atmosphere nearby, attack and glass his homeworlds ASAP, you can't find any better planets than this . (Might not make you very popular, though).
3. Combat bonuses. The extra 20% you can get from racial modifications can really turn a battle around at all stages of the game. I consider good combat bonuses from race/sensors/ECM/training much more important than weapon choice. What good is a PPB that doesn't hit compared to a DUC in the hands of an expert? (see also the "Are battles always one sided" topic)
4. Trade tech, especially colonization tech.
5. most importantly: Have fun! And if you lose, remember: it is only a game.

Rollo
__________________
SE4
Devnull Mod Gold:
Version 1.80
Dungeon Odyssey:
Hack and Slash
Version 0.53e
  #7  
Old October 17th, 2001, 07:36 PM

Commander G2 Commander G2 is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Posts: 36
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Commander G2 is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Play by web guide

Here are my tidbits of wisdom:

1. In addition to using racial combat modifiers to make you hard to hit, consider using Destroyers against battleships.

2. Scattering Armor and Stealth Armor are stackable modifiers for defense and can be added to ECM IIIs.

3. Cloaked Ships can move through enemy ships if undetected.

4. Organic Seekers Ships are cheap to build. You probably cannot afford to put enough point defenses on your ships to fight them one on one. Psychic and Crystalline are nice to have to fight Organics.

5. Organic race can build ships faster because their armor and weapons use purely Organic resources. They can build most ships in 2 turns because they use so little metal.

6. Rename your planets to indicate where Fleet and Ship Training facilities are for easy identification. Consider using a code as renames are visible to opponents.

7. Consider using 'Nearest' in your combat orders to avoid shooting at long range with non seeker weapons.

8. Build cheap mines (one warhead) to build more at a time.

9. Use fighters and missles in combination to overwelm point defenses.

10. Consider targeting seekers before fighters as missles always hit and generally do more damage.

11. Target ships before fighters to let point defenses deal with them leaving your weapons free to fire at ships.

12. Target 'has weapons' as a priority. Why waste shots on a crippled ship, especially if using PPBs or Null space?

13. Missleships can function as cannon folder as they do not need ship training for offensive purposes. Send them straight to the front lines.

14. Consider shipyard ships before repair ships as shipyard ships are useful when there is nothing to repair.
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.