.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $5.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: Starfury

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 25th, 2003, 11:32 PM
Jake Monroe's Avatar

Jake Monroe Jake Monroe is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 58
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Jake Monroe is on a distinguished road
Default Re: First impressions

I don't want to imagine how much longer it would have taken Aaron to give the game 3d movement.
__________________
Empires Colonize in an attempt to get away from Chuck Norris. Unfortunatly He is always there waiting for them.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old September 26th, 2003, 12:54 AM

milo milo is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Irvine, CA, USA
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
milo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: First impressions

Quote:
Originally posted by Jake Monroe:
I don't want to imagine how much longer it would have taken Aaron to give the game 3d movement.
Well, it's already got a 3D engine. Allowing the ships three degrees of freedom instead of two shouldn't be that big of a deal - perhaps a couple of weeks of coding to let you fly above and below the ecliptic.

Of course, getting the AI to work again might be a little harder.
__________________
--milo
http://www.starshatter.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old September 26th, 2003, 02:06 AM

Phoenix-D Phoenix-D is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 5,085
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Phoenix-D is on a distinguished road
Default Re: First impressions

It isn't just graphics though. The collision would have to be revamped (currently, you only colide with objects on the plane), controls would have to be -totally- re-done, as the current system simply wouldn't work.
__________________
Phoenix-D

I am not senile. I just talk to myself because the rest of you don't provide adequate conversation.
-Digger
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old September 27th, 2003, 11:58 PM

milo milo is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Irvine, CA, USA
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
milo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: First impressions

Quote:
Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
It isn't just graphics though. The collision would have to be revamped (currently, you only colide with objects on the plane), controls would have to be -totally- re-done, as the current system simply wouldn't work.
The current control system can be extended into three dimensions rather easily. You need to add pitch up and down keys for the keyboard side of things, and you need to project the mouse click steering onto a 3D sphere instead of a 2D plane. All of the ships already have orientation in three dimensions; it's required to render them. They would just need velocity and acceleration extended to be 3D as well. Collision detection and resolution should be the same in 2D and 3D, whether you use bounding spheres or OBB trees or whatever. All of that kind of easy stuff can be done in a couple of weeks.

The biggest impact would be on the AI for the NPC ships. They don't know how to fly in three dimensions, and they have no strategies for attacking in three dimensions. All of the weapons would need to support elevation deflection as well as azimuth. Guided missiles would need seeker algorithms that work in 3D. That kind of stuff will take longer than a couple of weeks. How much longer depends on how sophisticated a set of algorithms you want to have.

I don't think it would really add anything significant to the game, though, any more than adding 3D movement would make Chess or Checkers better. Starfury has an elegant and approachable simplicity as it is.
__________________
--milo
http://www.starshatter.com
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.