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Old May 13th, 2001, 01:35 AM

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Ok, I checked it again . In the design screen my fast courier has eight Q1 engines and one solarsail 2. Should move 13 , moves in reality 7 .

Ive attached the savegame, if you want to look into this. ( sno02.gam )
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Old May 14th, 2001, 12:59 AM

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I was checking out what the AI builds and noticed a few oddities that I thought I should mention. All occured with High Tech start.
HE mount weapons show no damage on certain type weapons. Must have to do with the reduced range of the HE mount and a normally short ranged weapon.
!!!! Shipyard ships/bases are being designed and built with two yard components and getting the benefit of both!!! How is this possible and why can't I do it with a planet???
Have seen an number of designs with tremendous amounts of shields/hardened shield generators and few (1-2) weapons. Don't know if this is done on purpose or not.
Have seen mines with armor (Cue Cappa).
The Taera and Serageti only build up to cruisers and space stations, nothing larger.
The Phong only build up to space station.
This appears to only effect their initial designs. After 40+ turns they seem to build the larger ships.
Love the mod. Will post any other things that seem odd here.



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Old May 14th, 2001, 05:03 AM
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Dev, have you come out with one for 1.35 yet? I also run into my 1st range error I have no idea what turn for I hade to start it over and was a long time between saves. Keep up the great work

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Old May 14th, 2001, 10:01 AM

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Marty: Thanks for the feedback! I'll look into these and let you know what I find. It's quite likely some of those are due to typos on my part (armor on MINES?? sheesh Bad Devnullicus, no biscuit). If I can fix them with minor typo fixes, I'll put out a minor Version update with the fixes. I don't usually test with high tech, so it's not surprising I miss some things like that.

Mottlee: Devnullmod 1.3 is for Version 1.35 of se4 =). If you get range check errors, see if you can post your save game to here, it's possible I can track down what file the error is in.

Bluecher: Not sure what is going on with your game. In my game, I've created a fast escort with quant engines, solar sail III and it moves 14, just like it should. I'll keep digging though, maybe it's specifically a problem with quantum II engines...


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Old May 14th, 2001, 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Marty Ward:
The Taera and Serageti only build up to cruisers and space stations, nothing larger.
The Phong only build up to space station.
This appears to only effect their initial designs. After 40+ turns they seem to build the larger ships.



This is a feature of original SE4 AI, not a bug. The idea is that the larger ships & bases are too expensive/time consuming to build in early stages of the game, so most of the AI have a line "max tonnage" or something like that. I think there's a total of 3 of these lines in each AI, the first two Lasting 20-40 turns each, and the Last one being the ultimate limit for that race.
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Old May 14th, 2001, 04:22 PM

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I wonder if that feature could be used to give a variety of ship designs to the AI? Could the turns between the switch be lengthened or could more lines be added for example.
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Well, these are the appropriate lines from "*_AI_Settings.txt":

Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 1 Amount := 510
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 1 Num Turns := 20
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 2 Amount := 610
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 2 Num Turns := 40
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 3 Amount := 0
Max Ship Size Tonnage From Start 3 Num Turns := 0

I assume the "0" entries in the "Start 3" lines mean unlimited (a standard established in other text files for SEIV).

I don't think you can change the number of start points, but it looks like you can change the turn limits and tonnage sizes...
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