Making mods for Dominions II. [Basic editing/modding discussion.]

Nerfix · #1 September 28th, 2003, 05:01 PM

Have you played Dominions more than 2 times? Have you played it at all? I have dedicated my life to Dominions, i have played it for something like 2 years, and i knew immediatedly when i got the demo that this game was unique. I and my friends have our own webpage and Boards, and i have watched the progress of Dominions II from the beginning. I have spent countless nights thinking what will become of Dominions II.
Is it so horrible that someone actualy like this game the way it is, even with its "horrible", "ugly" GFx?
This game is literaly holy to me. I don't want to see it being destroyed, but my worst nigthmares are turning true.

Every damn passing day these Boards sicken me more and more, and that is because of you whining GFx worshipping Tolkien fanatics! I hate you all, i couldn't care less what you rate, i'm leaving these Boards NOW and i think i migth return if Dominions II will not trun out to be some beer and pretzel game!
Goodbye!

[ September 28, 2003, 16:05: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

DominionsFan · #2 September 28th, 2003, 05:01 PM

WOW! Dominions 2. will be moddable? COOL! WOW! Imagine! Tolkien or Warhammer mods! I C.A.N.T W.A.I.T! I want Dominions II. now!

MStavros · #3 September 28th, 2003, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by Nerfix:
Have you played Dominions more than 2 times? Have you played it at all? I have dedicated my life to Dominions, i have played it for something like 2 years, and i knew immediatedly when i got the demo that this game was unique. I and my friends have our own webpage and Boards, and i have watched the progress of Dominions II from the beginning. I have spent countless nights thinking what will become of Dominions II.
Is it so horrible that someone actualy like this game the way it is, even with its "horrible", "ugly" GFx?
This game is literaly holy to me. I don't want to see it being destroyed, but my worst nigthmares are turning true.

Dude, nothing will be destroyed. Can you tell us, that what the #$%^&*( are you talking about? You are not forced to download and play any mods, you...*insert bad words here*
I can't belive that this kid is so stupid.

As someone suggested, do not even load this thread, you are just making us mad and angry with your stupid replies.
Stpatrick - This is lot more than disagreement. Nerfix cannot tell us anything wrong about modding. 'He just don't like modding'. Shrugs....
Leave this god damned thread Nerfix, you are making no sense.

[ September 28, 2003, 16:07: Message edited by: MStavros ]

DominionsFan · #4 September 28th, 2003, 05:10 PM

UMMMM, Nerfix is a typical troublemaker. Ignore him.
1 star for him.

st.patrik · #5 September 28th, 2003, 05:17 PM

Ok, so maybe 0.1% is an exageration - but honestly something like 1% or 2%, in my experience. Of course there is an inversely proportional relationship between how good the original game/scenario is and how worthwhile the mods are - if the original NEEDS tweaking, then mods can be a really good thing. I suspect if people are no longer playing vanilla it's because vanilla needed something that a mod added. I definitely don't think that's the case with Dominions.

And Nerflix - I agree with you in being opposed to mods, but you are stating the case too strongly saying that having the ability to mod will ruin the game - it will still be possible to play "vanilla" Dominions and ignore the mod world.

MStavros · #6 September 28th, 2003, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by st.patrik:
but you are stating the case too strongly saying that having the ability to mod will ruin the game - it will still be possible to play "vanilla" Dominions and ignore the mod world.

Yes, this is what he can't understand with his 70 IQ I guess.
As for the rest, you don't see the point behind modding as well. Mods aren't made only to fix the balance, the best mods are totally different from the original game. It is a GOOD thing.
If someone says that its bad, its sounds abnormal to me, sorry. Why? Because as someone mentioned, more diversity = more fun. Got it?

st.patrik · #7 September 28th, 2003, 05:43 PM

ok, so I don't want to get into a huge pointless argument here - I'm quite happy to agree to disagree, but here is maybe the key issue:

you say (or rather quote) more diversity = more fun, whereas I think while diversity can contribute to something being fun, it is in no way a sufficient condition to make something fun - much more important is careful design and balancing. Some of the best games of all time are incredibly simple - hardly any diversity at all. So I don't agree that more diversity necessarily equals more fun.

Honestly I think (without getting too philosophical on you all

) that valuing diversity so highly is one of the most foolish things about our postmodern culture - we value diversity more highly than it deserves - it is almost the sole criterion for determining worth. exhibit a: this whole discussion about modding.

However, such philosophical musing are somewhat irrelevant, because what it comes down to is Illwinter deciding whether or not they like the idea of modding. You want them to, I don't want them to, we'll see what they decide. I guess I'm willing to leave it there.

[ September 28, 2003, 16:46: Message edited by: st.patrik ]