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October 4th, 2003, 04:40 PM
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Re: What are your most wanted features in Doms II
"Loosing" is the gerund form of "to loose", as in "to let loose".
As for "losing", it could be defined in various ways. Ideally I'd like a list of setting for each group or leader, and for an entire army, which determines the way they decide when to retreat. As you say, this could vary from "when outnumbered by X degree", "when outmatched by X degree", "when wounded", "when seriously wounded". However that's a lot more control than is really needed, or than I would expect to get in Doms II.
What I think is missing and would be relatively easy to implement, though, would be one or two tactics not seen in Doms I, such as:
"Skirmish" (for light infantry and light cavalry and fliers, for instance - meaning to attack when and where the group has an advantage in range, numbers, or position which allows it to remain mostly out of reach of being greatly hurt in a counter-attack)
"Retreat if endangered" (simply retreat as if you had morale 9 or so - the complex mechanics are already there, but not the option to voluntarily avoid fighting until nearly dead - perhaps the best compromise in Doms I is "fight then flee", but that'll have you flee even if you're winning easily)
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October 4th, 2003, 05:48 PM
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Re: What are your most wanted features in Doms II
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quote: Originally posted by HJ:
Sorry to do this, but it's not moral, it's morale...
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which is kinda annoying for us french, as your 'morale' is translated to 'moral' in our country, but your 'moral' is translated to 'morale'!
ouch
It's cool, and I'm not a native speaker either, I was just saying something along the lines of "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
Back on topic:
I know it can't be done in DomII, but I don't see why would the introduction of a tactical engine for battles be considered as heresy? I see a lot of requests for better control over the battles, even from people who are not advocating it diredtly, and all this could be done with full tactical control over the battles. Two reasons against it are given:
1) It would hamper the multiplayer - well, not if you still have the option to autoresolve battles. I play only SP, and I really miss additional control. It's slightly depressing to see that everything is already over once the turn starts, and there's nothing you can do about it. I hate relinguishing control of my hard-earned army to the AI's competence.
2) The AI would lose big time - and yet, on the other hand, people are praising the AI, and saying that it's good enough to do battles on its own. If it's so good as you say, then it should have not problems against the player either. It needs no further scripting, the only thing that needs to be scripted is the tactical control for the player. But if it's not so good to do that, that's yet another reason why I don't want to relinguish the control over my units to it.
In other words, I know it's not going to be there for the Doms II, but it would be a shame to discard the idea altogether for the future. Maybe in an addon, a future edition of the game, or an offshoot game based on the general Dominions engine this would be worth considering?
[ October 04, 2003, 16:49: Message edited by: HJ ]
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October 4th, 2003, 06:10 PM
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Re: What are your most wanted features in Doms II
Always gotta be a wise guy ehh?
"Sorry to do this, but it's not moral, it's morale... "
Which is why I said I hated to correct grammer in the first place, knowing full well that I'm as succeptable to making an error as the next guy.
But... its one thing to make a typo on one word. Its another to misspell the same word over and over in multiple Posts (and other words besides).
Now I'm not critisizing anyone, just hoping that the correction to the most annoying error (in my eyes anyway) would be taken as constructive by the initial poster so that he can improve his english.
I should know... I'm enjoying an all French PBEM at the moment, and my french is certainly not up to par, just ask Pocus  Oh well its all in the spirit of trying to improve oneself, oh and others... 
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October 4th, 2003, 06:15 PM
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Re: What are your most wanted features in Doms II
Sorry, couldn't resist it...
You did notice the smilies, right? 
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October 4th, 2003, 06:21 PM
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October 4th, 2003, 09:00 PM
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Re: What are your most wanted features in Doms II
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Originally posted by PvK:
"Loosing" is the gerund form of "to loose", as in "to let loose".
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Take note that I had never pointed out the typos and grammars errors of anybody, as I'm not a native english speaker.
I know the difference between 'lose' and 'loose', thanks for the lesson , I made a typo.
back to the point, I just wanted you to expand your idea, so that everybody can realize that you would have to strengthen much the scriptable orders of dominions to account for the many situations where you seem to lose, but are not losing. IMO it is too much pain for a small benefit.
You idea of artificially fixing your max morale is interesting on the other hand. I suppose (humbly again) it would not ask too much from IW. The problem is you would rout like a standard rout, that is everybody run at full speed, with slower units hacked from behind. Not an orderly retreat I would say!
So fighting retreat would have to be implemented. Why not, can be fun to see 
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October 4th, 2003, 09:04 PM
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