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Old October 6th, 2003, 11:10 AM
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>You can't change names in DomII...


3) to protect a physically weak pretender against Seeking Arrows or Mind Hunts (who will waste a spell to kill Gothmog the Great Sage if the Astral Window shows only a certain "Rodoald the Scout" ?), knowing that even kings could disguise themselve to deceive assassins. Of course he is unmasked in battle (the picture and use of magic unveil his true personnality then) if a battle occurs.

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I agree with points 1 & 2, but not with #3. Your example would be a textbook one of the abuse of renaming pretenders to mask them, which was cited as a major reason for withdrawing renaming capability. Sure, a great sage or master druid could don a disguise, but what about the the wyrm and the dragon? Sorry, but no. There are other ways to ward against farslaying spells than just renaming with the intent to deceive. The choice to build a physically weak pretender is up to the player and this sort of things should be taken into account. Rainbow Mages tend to be physically weak, but magically powerful and flexible, whereas a physically powerful pretender usually ends up not as powerful magically, at least not across the board.

Personally, someone who would use such a cheap cheating tactic as renaming pretenders in a game against me would have to find himself somebody else to play Dominions with. Besides, isn't the whole point of the pretender's presence expanding/strengthening his dominion just undone conceptually if nobody knows they're dealing with a god? Flies against certain basic premises the game rests on.

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Old October 6th, 2003, 12:30 PM

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I think I know what to do: Add an option to the general's char sheet: rename.
Than the general will have a new random name.
There, problem solved.

PS. The renaming by the 'hands of the players' would be better of course, but if we cannot have that, add this feature at least.

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Old October 6th, 2003, 12:40 PM

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I really want to be (still) able to continue to rename commanders/heroes/mages !
I need to sort out who is doing what, and when you have 10 commanders of the same name, it's tedious !
I go so far that I name my mages "Search FBD" (Fire Blood Death) or "Research 6" to help me organise stuff...
The reason given is quite poor, you're penalizing 99% of "honest" players to prevent a lame trick used by 1%, that could easily be solved by always giving away the TYPE of unit to other players (so you'll see "JoeSmith the Scout - PRETENDER" )

And even if the argument stands and the solution isn't that easy, it only stands in MP, at least allow renaming for all Solo games, please ...
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Old October 7th, 2003, 01:02 AM

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And even if the argument stands and the solution isn't that easy, it only stands in MP, at least allow renaming for all Solo games, please ...
True, I prefer singleplayer anyways. Multi is too slow in TB games...
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Old October 6th, 2003, 03:45 PM

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In open defiance, I intend to use post-it notes on my monitor to "locally" rename my commanders in Dominions II. Take that Illwinter!

I'm fighting for the rights of my minions to reinvent themselves!
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And even if the argument stands and the solution isn't that easy, it only stands in MP, at least allow renaming for all Solo games, please ...
True, I prefer singleplayer anyways. Multi is too slow in TB games...
take an afternoon with some friends, and make a blitz game, one turn every 10 minutes.
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Old October 6th, 2003, 04:13 PM
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I prefer singleplayer anyways. Multi is too slow in TB games...
take an afternoon with some friends, and make a blitz game, one turn every 10 minutes.
...or join the #dominions channel on IRCnet, the Finns here blitz a lot. If you're not afraid of playing with a 2 mins/turn timer ;-)
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