Questions about the Niefelheim theme

Pocus · #1 October 4th, 2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Nerfix:
Well, casting Illwinter at turn 13 could be a damn big pain nevertheless...

yes, but reread my post

: everybody will try to kill you asap, will you have the guts to do this? Ok temperature will shift to cold 3, but 6+ temperate nations against you, and you with 13 turns of gems (or is it slaves?) wasted on the spell, do you think you'll resist?

Nerfix · #2 October 4th, 2003, 04:41 PM

It still can *BLEEP* up the game seriously.
Cutting income down for other nations(except cold lovers) by maxium 60%(i think) can have effects that Last much longer than the actual spell...
And chances are, other nations will have much less provinces and income on turn 13 than turn 33...
Sure they will hate you, it's an *BLEEP* trick to do...

Daynarr · #3 October 4th, 2003, 05:15 PM

It's 120 slaves and requires level 5 blood and level 3 water mage. Not easy to acquire and will suffer greatly in all other areas (magic, research, dominion) if you go for early casting. However, I still haven't tried to cast the damn thing so I can't tell how overpowering it is. I just don't want to test it in PBEM and wait and some big anti-Jotunheim-alliance to kill me (not so difficult even with lower income since many nations can gather powerful magic troops early (like Tien Chi).

[ October 04, 2003, 16:18: Message edited by: Daynarr ]

Nerfix · #4 October 4th, 2003, 06:16 PM

OK, does Son of Niefel(the pretender) still cost 50 points? And his new magic picks still cost the same 50 as in Dominions I?

Daynarr · #5 October 4th, 2003, 06:36 PM

Yes, still 50, 50.

Nerfix · #6 October 4th, 2003, 06:49 PM

If things haven't changed much from Dom I, it's not that hard to make a 6 Water/6 Blood Son of Niefel without penalising yourself too much.
Ok, i take 2 steps of Drain scale, but it just helps me to protect my precious undead critters.

However, does Niefelheim theme cost design points?

[ October 04, 2003, 17:50: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

Daynarr · #7 October 4th, 2003, 07:06 PM

It costs 50 points. You are right you can get 6 6 pretender without too much penalizing, but if you take drain you will have even worse research. Illwinter wont win game by itself.

[ October 04, 2003, 18:07: Message edited by: Daynarr ]