A question about bless effects

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by st.patrik:

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Originally posted by st.patrik:
Now here's the question: does berserk make you berserk? i.e. aside from the stat modifications, does it make you forget what you were doing and charge toward the enemy? I have this vision of a bunch of white centaur archer/priest commanders getting blessed and then running toward the advancing Ulmish infantry in a fit of berserk rage, only to get decimated.

I don't think this question ever got answered [even if there are no more white centaurs]. Can anyone say if the way things work mean that blessed troops of a nature-strong pretender will rush at the enemy, ignoring all orders? If so it seems like a major liability to me, rather than an advantage.

also, in Dom I bless effects were applied to priestly commanders. Is that the same in Dom II? If so, the effect I'm asking about would be an even bigger liability.

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As long as you have not been damaged there is no chance that you will go berserk, unless someone cast the spell growing fury. After you have been blessed you behave like any other unit with the berserk fx.

[st.patrik]

Originally posted by johan osterman:

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Originally posted by st.patrik:

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Originally posted by st.patrik:
Now here's the question: does berserk make you berserk? i.e. aside from the stat modifications, does it make you forget what you were doing and charge toward the enemy? I have this vision of a bunch of white centaur archer/priest commanders getting blessed and then running toward the advancing Ulmish infantry in a fit of berserk rage, only to get decimated.

I don't think this question ever got answered [even if there are no more white centaurs]. Can anyone say if the way things work mean that blessed troops of a nature-strong pretender will rush at the enemy, ignoring all orders? If so it seems like a major liability to me, rather than an advantage.

also, in Dom I bless effects were applied to priestly commanders. Is that the same in Dom II? If so, the effect I'm asking about would be an even bigger liability.

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As long as you have not been damaged there is no chance that you will go berserk, unless someone cast the spell growing fury. After you have been blessed you behave like any other unit with the berserk fx.

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Thanks for the reply Johan. I was confusing the regular berserk thing with the effect of wearing a berserker pelt - which wouldn't have been pretty.

However, it still seems like it could be something of a liability, if your opponent is able to get at you with even 1 point of damage you're out of the spell-casting/missile-firing, etc. game. Seems like spells like 'Swarm' could be used to great effect here, or black hawks - they won't kill much, but they could cause your opponent's sacred archers to run into the arms of your waiting heavy infantry...

Of course, I have yet to see how it will play out - it suppose if it were a problem the betatesters would have come across it. [This makes me think of a different question - but I guess I'll start a new thread for that one.]

[ October 18, 2003, 18:45: Message edited by: st.patrik ]

[Kristoffer O]

Originally posted by st.patrik:
Thanks for the reply Johan. I was confusing the regular berserk thing with the effect of wearing a berserker pelt - which wouldn't have been pretty.

However, it still seems like it could be something of a liability, if your opponent is able to get at you with even 1 point of damage you're out of the spell-casting/missile-firing, etc. game. Seems like spells like 'Swarm' could be used to great effect here, or black hawks - they won't kill much, but they could cause your opponent's sacred archers to run into the arms of your waiting heavy infantry...

Of course, I have yet to see how it will play out - it suppose if it were a problem the betatesters would have come across it. [This makes me think of a different question - but I guess I'll start a new thread for that one.]

I do not think there are any sacred archers (white centaurs do have javelins though).

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by st.patrik:

However, it still seems like it could be something of a liability, if your opponent is able to get at you with even 1 point of damage you're out of the spell-casting/missile-firing, etc. game. Seems like spells like 'Swarm' could be used to great effect here, or black hawks - they won't kill much, but they could cause your opponent's sacred archers to run into the arms of your waiting heavy infantry...

The nature bless effect might very well be the most powerful one, so even if the potentional berserkings of priests or mage priests is a slight liability that liability might be a balancing factor.

[Vodalian]

Originally posted by Kristoffer O:

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Originally posted by st.patrik:
Thanks for the reply Johan. I was confusing the regular berserk thing with the effect of wearing a berserker pelt - which wouldn't have been pretty.

However, it still seems like it could be something of a liability, if your opponent is able to get at you with even 1 point of damage you're out of the spell-casting/missile-firing, etc. game. Seems like spells like 'Swarm' could be used to great effect here, or black hawks - they won't kill much, but they could cause your opponent's sacred archers to run into the arms of your waiting heavy infantry...

Of course, I have yet to see how it will play out - it suppose if it were a problem the betatesters would have come across it. [This makes me think of a different question - but I guess I'll start a new thread for that one.]

I do not think there are any sacred archers (white centaurs do have javelins though).

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What happened to the amazon pegasi riders?

[Kristoffer O]

Oh, forgot about them

[Pocus]

Originally posted by Vodalian:
What happened to the amazon pegasi riders?

they perform better in melee with their awesome defence, so using them as shortbowmen is anyway not a good idea (generally, sure it can depends).