Urgent Interface Problems

[licker]

Originally posted by Dekent:
Rather you find it trivial or not is in the eye of the beholder...or maybe in this case the hand?....by turn 50 that is 100 extra clicks that were not in dom 1 that are really not needed and could be cut out for the single player part.

(hitting a button on the keyboard is really the same as clicking somewhere)

Actually from an ergonomic view point moving and clicking a mouse and hitting a key on the keyboard are miles apart, that was my point. From a time point of view it is also faster to hit keys than to move and click a mouse, in another thread I suggest hotkeying the host and nation buttons. It would make the wait (small that it is) less, and save some strain on the old wrist muscles.

And you are somewhat right about it being in the eye of the beholder, but to suggest that this feature would keep someone from playing Dom over any other feature is the height of hyperbole. If your main concern with a game is how many mouse clicks it takes to do something (and we're talking about 2 or 3 here, not dozens ala MoO3) then I don't think you've explored the other features of the game in enough detail.

I don't have a problem with a change to the existing system though, I just find it amusing that anyone would feel so strongly about it that they would threaten to stop playing *solely* because of the system.

[Dekent]

It's really alot of things...the color useage was very aggervating on my eyes..there really wasn't all that much improvement from dom 1 (at least from what I can see in the demo)...2 new nations when I haven't even played all the orginal doesn't matter to me. Also things are just too small to ID at a glance on the main menu.

All minor details, true, but too many minor problems do add up. It's just that while playing the demo this clicking thing was what was really rubbing it all in my face so it's the 'straw that broke the camels back' basically.

I was really hoping for a major rework over d1 interface, which I feel was the weakest part...but they fixed everything but that.

[Dekent]

It's also not like im threatening to boycott IW or anything stupid..it really boils down too I would rather stick with dom1 at this rate then pay 50$ to upgrade to 2.

[MythicalMino]

Personally, i think they have fixed the interface pretty good...sure, there could still be improvements here and there...but, overall, i think it is better than in Dom1....

Do you mean colors as the colors on the map?

If so, i really am not sure how you can compare these color schemes to the old ones....These maps look so good....borders are clearly seen....the provinces don't blend in together like in the first one. The trees, mountains, the mellow colors....I really think this is a vast improvement over Dominions I maps....

[Saber Cherry]

cpbeller and licker,

I appreciate your comments, and while I don't control this forum, I started this thread specifically for people to post problems that they are finding in the interface. Particularly problems that annoy and confuse them, or that they suspect might repel new Users - which is absolutely crucial to know as soon as possible, before the demo has been downloaded by the entire world.

So when people post their concerns, please don't argue or trivialize them, because A) it causes a fight, B) it makes the thread less useful and efficient to devs, and C) it discourages other people from posting valid issues, lest they be criticized. I think this thread would be best used for raising concerns and posting suggestions on how to resolve them, rather than arguing whether they are real.

-Cherry

[ October 28, 2003, 18:19: Message edited by: Saber Cherry ]

[Pocus]

if we are talking about interface issues, here are two that bother me:

1) I would like a menu which enable you to return to the main menu without having to quit the game. I cant even understand that it bothered no beta testers.

2) I would have liked that the AI settings are saved then restored when you launch a new game. I find annoying that you have to redeclare that 15 AI or so have to be set on difficult/impo level each time I launch a new game (thats 60 clicks or so).
Writing the setting to a text file, and either auto restore it, or having restored with a button (smartly labelled reload previous settings) would be of interest.

[ October 28, 2003, 18:21: Message edited by: Pocus ]

[Saber Cherry]

Originally posted by Pocus:
1) I would like a menu which enable you to return to the main menu without having to quit the game. I cant even understand that it bothered no beta testers.

I strongly agree.