Does ancient race take a little fun out of the game?

[Trachmyr]

Well I stand corrected... perhaps we should write MM about changing this so partnerships don't confer the "exploration" bonus of Ancient empires.

[TaeraRepublic]

Ancient Race....i personaly realy do not like it. Can say i hate it.
See, in single-player it is not SO powerful (although takes out the fun of exploring);
But when it comes to multi-player...you know what people are doing?

(How To Win In Few Turns)
Create a warp-point open ship, save, open to a system. If the enemy isnt there, load the save, and open to the next system. And so untill you find the enemy. Players who either dont know about this, or (like me) prefer to still play fair, are in a huge disadvantage.

If it was in my power, i would instantly remove this racial advantage from the game, or change what it does.

I like the idea of "All adjucent systems + a radius of 4 systems" (from original post) and think its the best what could be put into Ancient Race advantage.

TO answer the original topic - yes, it does. It realy does.

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[Sirkit]

I personally enjoy the ability, I hate exploration so It's nice to know about where everything is, and it's an awful suprise to appear in a home system and have a major attack fleet blown out of the sky ahh good times.

The ability is an advantage primaraly to colonization but in general combat it's useless because the target empire often has a little planet out of the way somewhere preventing you from killing them off...

It doesn't offer that much of an advantage...

[Phoenix-D]

TaeraRepublic, how does that have anything to do with Ancient Race? You don't have to have seen a system to open a WP to it..

As far as seeing what the other players are doing- first off, I don't think it does this unless you have Ommipresent view on. Second, you pay racial points for it. Points that could be used for things like combat, resource production, special racial tech areas, etc.

EDIT: Yup. It just lets you see what is in the system like you had scouted and left. Doesn't show you where players are, etc.

Phoenix-D

[This message has been edited by Phoenix-D (edited 22 April 2001).]

[Leoric]

Thanks for the input.

I´m glad that I´m not the only one.

Leoric

[Trachmyr]

Aha! I was right... and I bet if you "partner" with an Ancient Race and OMNIPRESENT VIEW is turned off, you won't get automatic exploration either... Personally I never use Omnipresent view, if I want to know what's going on in a system I should have to build a patrol ship or a sat or something.

[Marty Ward]

I have never picked the Ancient Race because it doesn't seem worth the points but I did look at one of the neutrals, #6 I think, and they have the Ancient Race trait. Go figure. Maybe it is suppose to keep you from nuking them right away.