Does ancient race take a little fun out of the game?

[Trachmyr]

Aha! I was right... and I bet if you "partner" with an Ancient Race and OMNIPRESENT VIEW is turned off, you won't get automatic exploration either... Personally I never use Omnipresent view, if I want to know what's going on in a system I should have to build a patrol ship or a sat or something.

[Marty Ward]

I have never picked the Ancient Race because it doesn't seem worth the points but I did look at one of the neutrals, #6 I think, and they have the Ancient Race trait. Go figure. Maybe it is suppose to keep you from nuking them right away.

[Darwin]

Andrey,

Why are you promoting that nonsence like its a good idea.

It's cheating, and it crap. It was cheating when I left the borg becuase of it, and it will always be cheating. And as long as players persist in that nonsence SpaceEmpires will always be useless for Multiplay.

[Darwin]

Sorry for the rant,

Anyway, On topic.

Personally I feel that makes the game harder,

I use the map to tell where I've been and what I still need to explore, when I Partnership with a Ancient Race, Boom theres everything I get horribly lost

At least with SE4 i know which races not to ally with, in 3 it was random you couldn't tell.

[TaeraRepublic]

Darwin, you misunderstood me.
Glad you you understood that (NEVER was a cheater, not now and never will be...I always say to all my friends cheats....hmm....are bad).

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I would prefer it if ancient race's could not share all the map, just the systems they inhabit.

It is useful in multiplayer as it is a great strategic (only one way to say it mr bush) value. But it a dangerous disadvante to other players.

It shouldn't be sharable in any form. only share the systems the ancient race has been in or is in.

[PvK]

My 2 cents:

1) As has been mentioned, Ancient costs quite a few points that could be spent on other advantages.

2) It makes no sense to try to restrict the sharing of map knowledge - it's pretty basic information (where planets and warp lines are), so saying "you can know it but you can't share it" seems to me to make zero sense.

3) If a player wants to spend their racial points on this and then give it away, that's their loss/bargaining chip. Big deal.

4) In general, I don't usually use it, because I enjoy exploring. As people have said, some like it and some don't. So the choice is a good thing.

5) I don't think it's an underpriced advantage.

6) The point about cheating in MP with warp ships A) has little or nothing to do with the Ancient advantage, and B) only is possible if not using Simultaneous mode for a multi-player game, which I would hugely recommend over turn-based MP games anyway. That sort of cheating is possible in almost any turn-based MP game that has immediate resolution, and in several other ways besides with warp ships - if you have to play such a game, I suggest finding good players who understand that cheating just spoils the game. Again, use simultaneous mode!

PvK