Concerns about lack of Tutorial and Price of Game

Rogue · #1 October 30th, 2003, 10:53 PM

Not a flame, or putting anyone down, this is just my (humble) opinion on DOM2.

Having played, and owned

pretty much all the 4x games out there lemme say this. This game absolutely rocks. PvK is *dead* on about DOM2. The depth of this game is simply amazing.

As far as pretty graphics as opposed to content? The multimedia aspects of this game ain't too shabby (imho), and I'm not playing on dog old system that can't handle the new stuff.

I've said it before, I'd rather play something interesting and involving than just "ooh" and "ahh" at shiny objects. Too many of the big time publishers push things out the door in a hurry and only worry about the eye/ear candy (MoO3 anyone?). I'll support Shrapnel and their product line any day so long as they continue to focus on quality of content over "shiny objects".

Not to mention, $50.00 isn't too bad considering how long you can play this game.

I also don't think it's too hard to figure out. I started testing w/o any documentation whatsover (I play first, read later

as I'm lazy). It only took me about 5 minutes to figure out how to get rolling on the game. Of course the more complicated nuances took me a bit to catch on to, but overall it was pretty intuitive.

Particle · #2 October 30th, 2003, 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by Dryton:
I would like to get everyone's feedback on this or just some explanation to a loyal Shrapnel fan as to why I should pay 45.95 for a game that should be priced around 34.95 or less.

I second this.

Nerfix · #3 October 30th, 2003, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Particle:

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Originally posted by Dryton:
I would like to get everyone's feedback on this or just some explanation to a loyal Shrapnel fan as to why I should pay 45.95 for a game that should be priced around 34.95 or less.

I second this.

What is your favorite game? May i go to their offical MB and whine how their game is overpiced? If you aren't willing to pay $45 for a game like Dom II, then don't, but please, don't whine about it. I'm used to pay $50-60 for games.

licker · #4 October 30th, 2003, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by Particle:

quote:
Originally posted by Dryton:
I would like to get everyone's feedback on this or just some explanation to a loyal Shrapnel fan as to why I should pay 45.95 for a game that should be priced around 34.95 or less.

I second this.

More to the point...

Why do you feel the game should be priced lower?

I'd be happier if it were priced lower myself, but I'm not sure I have the reasons to justify such a pricing.

Its still cheaper than alot of bigger name games out there. Remeber the comparision needs to be made to AoW2 not to AoWSM, SM is just a rehash of 2 with some tweeks and 3 new races. No big deal really, hell I was surprised they wanted $30 for it.

[ October 30, 2003, 22:08: Message edited by: licker ]

Taqwus · #5 October 31st, 2003, 12:03 AM

Past performance is no guarantee of future results, but Illwinter was no slouch about supporting the first Dominions game; patches not only fixed bugs as they were discovered, but also addressed balance issues and added features e.g. Move-and-Patrol. The Last Dom I patch, 1.15, was released Feb 4, 2003; not at all bad for a game released July 2, 2001.

I've only owned one previous Shrapnel-published, "Space Empires IV", but that went through something like... up to Version 1.44 or 1.45 or so before the Gold Version release, and a LOT of feature tweaks and additions happened if memory serves. Shrapnel does not seem to be a "one patch and abandon" company.

For a game with as much replayability as Dom 2 should have -- the 17 sides needing different playing styles, for instance -- and the amount of support I'd suspect that Illwinter and Shrapnel are likely to give, the price seems fair.

Chris Byler · #6 October 31st, 2003, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by PvK:

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Originally posted by Alneyan:
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And the graphics and music are impressive for Dominions 2, when you have played the first game at least. ...

Actually Dominions 1 does have music during battle, if you keep the CD in the drive! It was of the "hard rock" variety.

PvK

Yes, but if you're used to the Dom I music, Dom II's music will blow you away. (Apologies to the composer of the Dom I music...)

Dom II is the cheapest game I have bought new in months (PC or PS2). Admittedly I got the pre-order discount, but I think that would be true even if I didn't count the preorder discount. Most games start at $50+ now. (Well, $49.95 anyway). It's called inflation.

Mephisto · #7 October 31st, 2003, 12:14 AM

It is an expensive game and especially for the continental Europeans you have to consider that to this price you have to add shipping and about 16% tax. Ordering from the UK doesn't make it any better. Not all the people have 60� (about 72 US$) for a game and some just have to chose what game they buy. If you can get sometimes nearly 2 games right in the shop next door for the price you get one game from Shrapnel it's hard to decide. A distributor in continental Europe would help Shrapnel with their selling IMHO.

P.S.: I hope they begin the shipping soon.