Life after Death Blessing oddities

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by HJ:

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Originally posted by johan osterman:
If you are Desert tombs it will increse the fear of the tombwyrms by +5 , increasing both the area and making the fear effect more difficult to resist.

So the fear value also increases the area of effect for fear? Didn't know that, thanks.

edit: I guess the minor fear value has the same effect of increasing the area of effect as well?

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Yes, and every full five makes the morale roll 1 more difficult. Fear 0 is area 5 no morale mod. so a critter with fear 15 has area 20 -3 fear mod. A death mage with 1 death, area 1 morale mod -1. The fear roll works like morale in battles, which means I am not entirely clear about the details, but squad size average morale etc will factor in if squad flees or not.

[HJ]

Originally posted by johan osterman:
Yes, and every full five makes the morale roll 1 more difficult. Fear 0 is area 5 no morale mod. so a critter with fear 15 has area 20 -3 fear mod. A death mage with 1 death, area 1 morale mod -1. The fear roll works like morale in battles, which means I am not entirely clear about the details, but squad size average morale etc will factor in if squad flees or not.

And the area is the same thing as area effect of the spells and the banner effect, i.e. changes every turn and is erratic, I guess. Thanks once again for the clarification.

edit: I also guess that failing a fear roll means the same thing as failing a morale check when hurt or seeing squad member die.

[ November 06, 2003, 18:43: Message edited by: HJ ]

[licker]

Using Miasma I just lost a marshmaster to disease... he was involved in a battle vs. indies, but he had the disease at the start of the battle, just wondering how he could have gotten it, he wasn't cursed or suffering from any other afflictions.

The message that he was lost to disease came up seperately from the battle message, and he didn't die in the battle...

Seems a bit odd to me.

And I didn't ever say that SSs should become TombWyrms, just that it would be nice for them to become 'something'...

[HJ]

Originally posted by licker:
Using Miasma I just lost a marshmaster to disease... he was involved in a battle vs. indies, but he had the disease at the start of the battle, just wondering how he could have gotten it, he wasn't cursed or suffering from any other afflictions.

Maybe you can get the disease from battle wounds like all other afflictions? Or maybe it was starving for a short while sometimes earlier? Did he have any other afflictions?

[ November 06, 2003, 23:38: Message edited by: HJ ]

[Keir Maxwell]

Originally posted by HJ:

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Originally posted by johan osterman:
If you are Desert tombs it will increse the fear of the tombwyrms by +5 , increasing both the area and making the fear effect more difficult to resist.

So the fear value also increases the area of effect for fear? Didn't know that, thanks.

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Very interesting. So the Prince of Death with fear (19) has a fear range of 24 and morale -3? With a helm of fear does he make it fear (20) -4 on morale saves.

Unlike many I do not like my pretenders to charge on in and risk afflictions so sitting back and scaring them away while casting spells is very appealing for my idea of a pretender SC. I really must find some time to test out my "The Dark is Rising" Fear race.

As I posted in another thread the Tomb theme enormously improves the approach I like with C'tis. And its so cool!

Johan's point about having played C'tis tomb theme MP carries alot of weight to me. For now we don't have any better experiance to base our judgement on - do we?

I suspect/hope that alot of the differences in strength of races will be more along the lines of it being easier to get a strong race out of say Arco and Pythium and harder out of some of the less rounded races.

Thanks for the info Johan.

Cheers

Keir

[ November 07, 2003, 01:19: Message edited by: Keir Maxwell ]

[johan osterman]

Originally posted by Keir Maxwell:
Very interesting. So the Prince of Death with fear (19) has a fear range of 24 and morale -3? With a helm of fear does he make it fear (20) -4 on morale saves.

[/QB]

Horror helmet gives an extra +5 fear (+5 area morale -1). I am not sure if you have misunderstood this or not but judging from your post you might have, but the fear effect is an area not a range or a radius, So fear +19 affects 24 scuares, potentionally 72 creatures if the fearsome being is in the middle of a large flock of creatures.

[Keir Maxwell]

Originally posted by johan osterman:
Horror helmet gives an extra +5 fear (+5 area morale -1). I am not sure if you have misunderstood this or not but judging from your post you might have, but the fear effect is an area not a range or a radius, So fear +19 affects 24 scuares, potentionally 72 creatures if the fearsome being is in the middle of a large flock of creatures.

I was being vague and confusing when I said range but I'm rather glad I was as now I have something concrete to go in working out the area of spell affects. You couldn't post the formula could you Johan?

Back to the Prince. As you pointed out its +5 for the Helm of Death giving Fear 24 area, -4 morale. Can't be hard to give him a bonus death item (and worth it with all deaths pumpable spells) so at a fairly early stage one should be able to get him to Fear area 25, morale -5. Brrrr - sounds very, very, scary.

Be afraid of the dark - very afraid.

Keir