Strategic Help required!

Nitram Draw · #1 April 25th, 2001, 01:12 AM

Aren't you getting any help from your mines? I usually see the AI send in minesweepers and combat ships to the same spot in the same turn but rarely in the same group? Maybe you will get lucky and a mine or two will take down some shields/crew quarters.
BTW are you fighting tactical or strategic? If you are fighting strategic, have you tried setting your tachyon ships to "point blank range"?

mac5732 · #2 April 24th, 2001, 02:42 PM

have you tried using LC's for capture instead of ES/FG'? Put shields on them and with the extra capture units you might not need as many as with es/fg's

just some ideas mac

Suicide Junkie · #3 April 24th, 2001, 03:09 PM

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Aren't you getting any help from your mines? I usually see the AI send in minesweepers and combat ships to the same spot in the same turn but rarely in the same group? Maybe you will get lucky and a mine or two will take down some shields/crew quarters

Hehe

Mines don't usually cripple a ship when you've got 500 mines per sector

I just get a message every two turns "9 Phong ships have been destroyed"
The enemy minesweepers will kill 105 mines each when they actually arrive.

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have you tried using LC's for capture instead of ES/FG'? Put shields on them and with the extra capture units you might not need as many as with es/fg's

The reason I need so many ES/FGs is cause the enemy DN has a terribly strong shield, and my accuracy at range 1 is 50%. I need that many ships just to carry DUCs so I can breach his shielding and try to kill the Self-destruct before the combat ends.
The reason why I dont plan to use LC's in that role is cause I don't have many (see first post) but I've got lots of ES/FGs sitting around from the beginning of the game. (And I don't have funds to scrap and rebuild - 102% of my minerals go to maint & mine building)

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BTW are you fighting tactical or strategic? If you are fighting strategic, have you tried setting your tachyon ships to "point blank range"?

Tactical all the way. I just love flying my ships around and changing tactics & trying to cover a crippled ship's retreat & stuff

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Nitram Draw · #4 April 24th, 2001, 03:31 PM

Do they always send 9 ships through? If so you could adjust the amount of mines so that maybe 1 or 2 will be crippled enough for you to easily capture. Don't try to kill them all

In my current game I've gotten quite a few Cue Cappa BB's with Alligience Converters this way. The mines took out their engines and shields, all their weapons remained intact for some reason. I just went in and captured them, cost me a few small capture ships in closing but I now have a small Psychic battlegroup without the ability.

Suicide Junkie · #5 April 24th, 2001, 03:43 PM

Problem is, they come at me so often that I'm having trouble holding the minefields up right now. When the fifth minesweeper comes through, I'll be finished.

I can't take the risk of detting my minefields...
Oh, but I could make a new minefield just in front of my existing ones to cripple somebody. I like it!

Hey, I was just looking at the scores, and the top 4 players have 100k score, while the bottom three (living) players all have 10k-20k score. The rich empires are all infighting for more territory, while me and the little guys just try to hold on to what we've got.

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Nitram Draw · #6 April 24th, 2001, 04:05 PM

If you could figure out where they would go once they got through the WP you could leave a trail of mines in their path. You might have crippled DN's all over the place

Suicide Junkie · #7 April 24th, 2001, 05:21 PM

The WP mines are pretty much my Last line of defence

I do have a few mines ni orbit of each planet, but they won't Last long. My ships are helpless right now.
Once I get the talisman, and my fleets get trained up to 20% (modded to be 1% per turn), then I might be able to dodge the occasional shot, while staying at range

I've set 2 mines (1200 damage total) just outside where the phong like to come in. Hopefully it won't attract a minesweeper, but I should be able to cripple some ships now. As long as they don't send a fleet over 3 ships in size, I should be able to handle the uncrippled ship with my fleet. (consisting of my entire military force except the training ESs)

Do you ever use a single escort in a fleet stationed over a training facil?
I've got 5 ES in their own "Training Fleet X", and then I can switch them with warships. I get a trained fleet of warships instantly & my ES starts a new fleet to train