Big Problem - Unbalanced random events

[Peter Ebbesen]

Originally posted by Zurai:
Actually the *best* Luck event is the one that adds population to a province.

I must disagree. It takes an awful number of rounds for a population boost to generate more money that the +500 gold event (and three times as many to beat the +1500 gold). Of course, there is the added impact on resources, the utility of which is highly dependent on exactly which province is targeted.

Unfortunately it appears to be tied to Order scale, and is already rare... meaning you're not very likely to see it at all. IMO, that event should be at least as common under high order as the "restless population" even is under turmoil (ie very frequent). [/QB]

Which is where we part company. To my mind, bad events should not be very frequent under turmoil IF your domian is lucky.

[tinkthank]

Just thought I'd repeat this, since I really would like to know and no one replied:
Saber Cherry made some amazing suggestions back there, has anybody (especially: the devs) taken that into consideration?

[Teraswaerto]

Luck scale can be good if you get lucky. Sometimes I've gotten several gold 500 events with just a few turns in between at the start of a game, and nary a negative event in sight.

I still think getting one's capitol hit with an earthquake (or something similar) during the first 5 or 10 turns should be impossible.

[BkWyrm]

Even when searching for sites always have a squad of guards and make sure your pretender has some scripted commands.

[Wyatt Hebert]

Hey, Lintman, check the math.

If you lost $150 in each of 5 games, and won $50 in each of 5 games, you'd have lost $500 total, not $750.

The only way you'd come out with $750 lost overall is if you won $50 in each of 5 games, and lost $150 _more_ (in terms of absolute magnitude) in each of 5 games, i.e. you won $50 5 times, but lost $200 5 times.

Also, I'm going to start testing and taking note of a bunch of different luck scales and the testing of what happens where in my games, to try and get a possible track on what's happening.

Also, one Last note, with only 3 events possible, you might want to take the Lady of Fortune pretender with misfortune, if she triggers before normal event checks, as she would cut down on the number of bad events.

Just a neophyte's observations.

Wyatt

[jaif]

Well, count my vote for keeping random events in pretty much as-is. I like games with random events: makes all my puzzle-solving, aquarium-owning, control-nut friends work for a livin'. :-) More seriously, I don't mind losing a game to an event - I'll get them next time. Besides, there's oodles of luck in combat, but because we don't see the 'die rolls' we don't complain.

I would ask one thing, though - killing off population by 1/4 or even 1/10 is pretty dang harsh in a game where population growth is tiny. Those events should kill a very small number of people (like 1%); the huge numbers don't seem consistant with the rest of the game.

-Jeff

[Inigo Montoya]

Jaif, I totally agree. It's the 1/4th population disaster that frustrates me to no end. I pick +3 Order and +1 Luck and still have my capital hit with the 1/4th nuke...

Incredible fury is generated which completely contradicts my otherwise adoration for Dominions II.

Either nerf the 1/4th event or add a 1/4th population growth event. The way population works now, you can easily eliminate population, but there is no easy way to increase it.