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Old November 27th, 2003, 07:47 PM
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Air Shield 45% is Air 10, unimaginably high.
Isn't it 80%?
Not according to DominionsX...

Just tested. Hey, what do you know! DominionsX is wrong, Air 10 gives Air Shield 80%. In that case, it is VERY valuable. Um, Nerfix?

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Old November 27th, 2003, 07:55 PM
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Arg. I'll have to fix many things when i get to vacation...

Rigth now schoolwork is killing me...
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Aside that, I never actually played very far with blessing effects, too costly to my taste (320 points minimum I think).
So you think there are issues over having enough points to make bless effects work? This was the main concern I read before the demo came out and yet when I made a related point that if the luck scale returned to how it was in Dom1 this would strangle most bless effect races - some players couldn't even begin to get where I was coming from. Given your comment perhaps you agree that bless effects races are viable or non-viable dependant on points available not simply a bit different with 120-160 less points. I was suprised that experianced players disagreed - made me feel like I'm on another planet. Not an altogether bad feeling though as I have always enjoyed travel.

I'm looking forward to seeing a revised table of air bless effects which may make a big difference on wether or not I use them with races like the Van.

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Old November 28th, 2003, 12:16 AM
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Revised Air table:

Air......Effect

4.........20% Air Shield
5.........30% Air Shield
6.........40% Air Shield
7.........50% Air Shield
8.........60% Air Shield
9.........70% Air Shield + 75% Shock Resist
10.......80% Air Shield + 75% Shock Resist

Pretty sweet at high levels, for archer races (or against archer races). Especially nice for IF Ulm, Marginon, and all races with holy mages that don't have Air magic. 10 is too expensive, though; I'd never go above 9.

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Not if you get Construction 4, with Air 3. Then you have a Staff of the Storms which protects all your units, not just your Sacred units.
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Not if you get Construction 4, with Air 3. Then you have a Staff of the Storms which protects all your units, not just your Sacred units.
I hadn't noticed that the dreaded Staff of Sorms is still con 4 - I guess I assumed it was going to be made con 6.

Still doesn't wipe the value of air shield though as its always been the case that archers are very counterable as the game goes on and people tend to use them, and encounter, them early. As the game goes on the lightning resistance becomes better and may make up for the declining value of the air shield. The key to the air shield is that not having to build dross archer catchers early so expansion becomes easier.

I'm going to give Air9 a go with the Van so watch out for Orb Lightning.

Many, many thanks Saber for digging all this up. You have saved us from ourselves.

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The other advantage is that Air Shield protects your troops against friendly fire... while staff of storms renders friendly archers useless, AFAICT.
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