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November 27th, 2003, 09:36 AM
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Re: How do you pronounce them?
Arcoscephale: Arko-ske-FAH-LEH
R'lyeh: RI-ly-EH (and the y is a separate sound in Finnish, much like in 'system', but more pronounced. Try pronouncing 'oo', but at the front of your mouth instead of at the back)
Jotunheim: Yo-TUN-hime
Vanheim: Van-HIME
Ermor: Err-MORR
Abysia: Aby-SIA (again the Finnish y)
C'tis: k (glottal stop) TISS
Caelum: Ca-e-LUM (the ae is pronounced together, the Finnish spelling would be Cae-lum, with a diftong in the first syllable)
Marignon: Mar-ing-NYON
Machaka: Mah-CHA-kah
T'ien Chi: T(glottal stop, but can be omitted) ien TSHEE (or alternatively Khee)
Pythium: Pyy-THIUM (y is Finnish again, and long, sort of like in python, not the why y)
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November 28th, 2003, 02:09 AM
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Re: How do you pronounce them?
We pronounce the names as swedish as possible.
Kristoffer, who is the principal originator of the nations their flavour and their names, had words or names from different cultures in mind when he made most of the nations, but that doesn't mean that he or anybody else around here bothers to pronounce them in the 'correct way' suggested by the language that the name originated from, this is partly due to that we chatter quite a bit about dominions and after a while the names etc tends to get swedified. Since Vanheim and Jotunheim are the two nation whose names are Scandinavian in origin these are probably the only ones that we pronounce somewhat similarily to their etymological roots. C'tis and a few others do not really have any etymological roots so I guess our colliqual swedish pronounciation is the 'correct' one for those. But Illwinter and its associates are not particularily good at linguistics, or particularily interested.
If you still think that the 'correct' pronounciation is important you might try to reconstruct it from the cultures that the nations are derived from or inspired by, in all likelyhood your guess at the 'correct' greek pronounciation of Pangaea is as good or better than ours, if you are chinese I wouldn't dream of trying to teach you how to pronounce Tien Chi in a believable way, and so on.
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November 28th, 2003, 02:27 AM
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Re: How do you pronounce them?
I pronounce them in a blunt Finnish manner, or even worse, use nicknames like "tikseli".
For example, i never bother to say "Arcoscephale".
[ November 28, 2003, 11:36: Message edited by: Nerfix ]
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November 27th, 2003, 11:22 PM
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Re: How do you pronounce them?
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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
Doesn't anybody else speak any French here? Look at all the people who are massacring Marignon.
I mean, how do you pronounce Champagne.
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I'm French, and would pronounce it Mar-ee-NYON
(with a nasal ON in the end, but there's no English word that has this sound AFAIK)
Antway - the Marignon nation looks rather Spanish to me (with the Spanish Inquisition and all). Hey, in DomI Marignon was located in Catalogne when using the "Europa" map, IIRC.
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November 27th, 2003, 11:55 PM
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Re: How do you pronounce them?
The inquisition of Marignon is a conglomerate of the original inquisition od Provence and the spanish one. Friars had a great role in the hunt for the cathars in langue d'oc, but the witch hunters and inquisitors of Marignon are perhaps later and more spanish.
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November 28th, 2003, 12:00 AM
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Re: How do you pronounce them?
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Originally posted by PhilD:
I'm French, and would pronounce it Mar-ee-NYON
(with a nasal ON in the end, but there's no English word that has this sound AFAIK)
Antway - the Marignon nation looks rather Spanish to me (with the Spanish Inquisition and all). Hey, in DomI Marignon was located in Catalogne when using the "Europa" map, IIRC.
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I pronounce it Mar-ee-nyon to as I don't knwo any spanish and it looks a french name to me.
Its funny the whole pronunciation thing - I went the Greece ~5 years ago after a life time of reading creek history myths and legends and discovered I was completely wrong in my idea of how the words were said. What I was pronouncing as a soft "c" was acutally a hard "K". It reinforced the point to me the Greek culture has alwyas been more middle eastern than european and its made quite a difference to my feel for greek culture. Likewise I used to pronouce Sidhe "sid-hay" and changing to saying it "shee" has altered my feel for the race.
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November 28th, 2003, 12:58 AM
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Re: How do you pronounce them?
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Originally posted by Keir Maxwell:
It reinforced the point to me the Greek culture has alwyas been more middle eastern than european and its made quite a difference to my feel for greek culture.
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A strange statement. Why would something like writing Greek words in anglicized way mean that? In fact, it's not as much anglicized as adopted from Latin, and classic Latin pronounciation of "c" was also "k". Hence, the letter "kappa" became "c" in many words taken from Greek. But other "European" Languages also have the sound "k" present in many of their word pronounciations, so why would this be a determining feature?
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