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November 29th, 2003, 04:31 PM
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Re: how would you play Mictlan
>The Shft-M thing to put the action on repeater might help.
It repeats normally, so this is not an issue.
>Its kindof a bummer that he has to have the slaves in his inventory.
That's the issue. Just to keep dominion in check I need to ferry slaves to the sacrificers all the time. The gem distribution system isn't the highpoint of the Dom2 interface, and having to access it often is frustrating.
If the province contains a lab, the slaves should come from the pool automatically.
It's small interface issues like this that are really grinding me down. 
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December 1st, 2003, 12:23 AM
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Re: how would you play Mictlan
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Originally posted by apoger:
>The Shft-M thing to put the action on repeater might help.
It repeats normally, so this is not an issue.
>Its kindof a bummer that he has to have the slaves in his inventory.
That's the issue. Just to keep dominion in check I need to ferry slaves to the sacrificers all the time. The gem distribution system isn't the highpoint of the Dom2 interface, and having to access it often is frustrating.
If the province contains a lab, the slaves should come from the pool automatically.
It's small interface issues like this that are really grinding me down.
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If the province contains a lab the slaves do come from the pool automatically. You just have to equip the priest with the number of slaves you want him to sacrifice from then on, after that he keeps reequipping and sacrificing that number of slaves every turn. This way you can choose the number of slaves you wish to sacrifice. Once started, under the condition you have sufficent amounts of slaves, you need not bother with the priest again until you for some reason want him to perform another order.
[ November 30, 2003, 22:24: Message edited by: johan osterman ]
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December 1st, 2003, 03:11 AM
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Re: how would you play Mictlan
What effect does each sacrificed slave have on Dominion spreading?
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December 1st, 2003, 05:51 PM
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Re: how would you play Mictlan
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What effect does each sacrificed slave have on Dominion spreading?
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Each sacrificed slave counts as one non-Mictlan temple (or prophet, or home province). This means that the effectiveness of sacrifice depends on the God's dominion strength (including boosts from number of temples).
Obviously the ability to make each of your temples count as five (for HPotS with Jade Knife, not counting prophets or national heroes) could be quite spectacular, however, the cost is pretty steep. Maybe Mictlan priests should get a blood hunting bonus similar to Fountain of Blood (not as powerful of course).
Does anyone know why Mictlan is allowed to take the Ceremonial Faith theme (its only effect is to raise the effectiveness of preaching, which Mictlan can't do at all)? Also, how does Restless Worshipers work with Mictlan - does it spread your dominion for free (could be very valuable)?
Of course, as scales currently stand, the Last thing an already weak nation needs is a turmoil scale...
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December 1st, 2003, 07:12 PM
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Re: how would you play Mictlan
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Originally posted by Chris Byler:
quote: Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
What effect does each sacrificed slave have on Dominion spreading?
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Each sacrificed slave counts as one non-Mictlan temple (or prophet, or home province). This means that the effectiveness of sacrifice depends on the God's dominion strength (including boosts from number of temples).
Obviously the ability to make each of your temples count as five (for HPotS with Jade Knife, not counting prophets or national heroes) could be quite spectacular, however, the cost is pretty steep. Maybe Mictlan priests should get a blood hunting bonus similar to Fountain of Blood (not as powerful of course).
Does anyone know why Mictlan is allowed to take the Ceremonial Faith theme (its only effect is to raise the effectiveness of preaching, which Mictlan can't do at all)? Also, how does Restless Worshipers work with Mictlan - does it spread your dominion for free (could be very valuable)?
Of course, as scales currently stand, the Last thing an already weak nation needs is a turmoil scale... IIRC Ceremonial Faith is not allowed, it's just there and useless. It shouldn't be there at all.
Restless worshippers do not give additional spread points, but allows spreading dominion to easily reduce other dominions and is therefore as useful to Mictlan as to any other player.
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December 2nd, 2003, 01:04 AM
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Re: how would you play Mictlan
The sense I get from re-reading this thread is that everyones got a similar idea of what to do its just that no-one has managed to have much success with it.
C'mon Illwinter - 2 spine devils for 5-6 blood? It is a blood 2 ritual so it takes a costly mage to perform and if you only get one devil its hard to make the spell cheap enough in blood slaves to be efficient. If it only required blood1 it might be different.
And some bronze armour?
I feel that Illwinter have been somewhat cautious with their new nations and as a consequence only Machaka (which gets Plate) seems up to scratch. Its not that I want Mictlan and Tien Ch'i to be more like the classically successful races - I'd like them to be a bit better at what they do.
I believe that the central focus on balence redressing should be improving underpowered options not weakening useful options. The only exception I can think of at present would be a decrease in the finanicial effectiveness of Order as part of improving turmoil/luck races.
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December 2nd, 2003, 03:23 AM
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Re: how would you play Mictlan
Presently Mictlan seems interesting to play using maximum blesses. Such as 4 in everything and 9 in astral
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