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				What role does a shield play?
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I realize that they block projectile weapons. But in a melee fight, do they confer additional benefits that you wouldn't have without them? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				Re: What role does a shield play?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Well, they usually give protection and defense. What I'd like to know is whether or not morningstars have a bonus against shields, as it says in the description for Star of Heroes. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		All Morningstars have an increased attack against shields. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		Another good bit of info would be how well shields protect against projectiles (the algorithm).  And if they protect against seeking arrows / battlefield magic projectiles (fireflies, etc).  They're starting to sound very useful! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Of course they are useful. Historically only the japanese failed to see this fact.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		I believe he's talking about martial arts movies and the like, not actual Japanese military tradition.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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 Umm, errr...  I'm not sure how to politely say this, but that sure doesn't fit with what I've read of Japanese military history -- although admitedly I'm an amateur not an expert. 
 
Perhaps you could direct me to a source?  I'm most curious to see how the Japanese made use of shields. 
 
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