When the patch will be released ?

PhilD · #1 December 13th, 2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by Dekent:
If I really thought cut and copy was a good alternative I would of done it...

However you can not deny that being able to just type the name (or number) of the unit would be much better.

And it doesn't matter if you used to working in command lines, GUI is (almost) always easier, and seeing as how I am playing a game for fun, I don't want to stress or spend that much time working on a scenario.

GUI is easier?

No way. With a decent shell, the command line is leagues ahead. And I'm not even an expert in using shells; I just use basic history search, and never have to type in a complex command more than once, even if I need to change some of the arguments.

What GUIs let you do efficiently is browse your files, and the like.

Dekent · #2 December 14th, 2003, 05:08 AM

Can you sit slouched up with your feet on the desk with one hand on the tv remote and the other on the mouse and use a command line? No? Case closed

Pocus · #3 December 14th, 2003, 08:56 AM

if GUI were not easier, people would still use dos based apps for data-managing commercial products, which is clearly not the case.

If I have comboboxes wich show me say the units of Marignon, or the list of all pretenders, and that I have just to click on the line I want to choose a name, then I think we can assume thats its easier and less error prone that do have to manually type that I want a Daughter of River as a pretender, for example.
GUI ask for room on your screen, thats true.

[ December 14, 2003, 06:57: Message edited by: Pocus ]

Gandalf Parker · #4 December 14th, 2003, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by PhilD:
Originally posted by Dekent:
GUI is easier?

No way. With a decent shell, the command line is leagues ahead. And I'm not even an expert in using shells; I just use basic history search, and never have to type in a complex command more than once, even if I need to change some of the arguments.

Depends on what you mean by easier. If you mean easier to get it to do what YOU want then maybe. Command line is almost always more powerful, with more options. Especially for chaining programs together or scripting things.

Id have to say that GUI are easier but also limiting. They can be easier for doing whatever the programmer has decided to let you do.

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[ December 14, 2003, 14:00: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

PhilD · #5 December 14th, 2003, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Pocus:
if GUI were not easier, people would still use dos based apps for data-managing commercial products, which is clearly not the case.

If I have comboboxes wich show me say the units of Marignon, or the list of all pretenders, and that I have just to click on the line I want to choose a name, then I think we can assume thats its easier and less error prone that do have to manually type that I want a Daughter of River as a pretender, for example.
GUI ask for room on your screen, thats true.

Let's not get started too far down this road...

A GUI is often easier when you're using an application. The command line, by definition, describes the launching of the application.

Some tasks are much simplified when you have an easy time accessing the information you want to organize (which I said in my post, under the generic term of "browsing"). But when it comes to issuing the right commands, with the right arguments, repeatedly, it's much easier to use a good shell (the old default DOS shell is NOT a good one).

What triggered my initial reply to Dekent was the affirmation that "GUI is (almost) easier".
I don't agree with this, in (almost) any possible sense of the word "almost"

Dekent · #6 December 18th, 2003, 08:40 PM

Everyone has different definations of the word 'easier' it seems....

I meant easier as in 'turning my brain off after a long day' easier

And back on topic...any word on the patch? Should it be out before xmas? After? Next year?

#7 December 18th, 2003, 09:06 PM

IW has said they have the patch done (or mostly) and it's sent to Shrapnel. Which we assume is to be customized to each OS. I think the nearest accessment is "soon"

Good news is that Dom2 was released 1 day prior to it scheduled release; so they don't take the customary '3 weeks after they promise' which is the norm of other gaming companies.