Stop the Insanity!

Saber Cherry · #1 December 10th, 2003, 12:17 AM

Yes. To clarify: The void gate is meant to be used with Starspawns, even though it is not in the description of the gate or the unit. Any astral mage can enter, but normally there's a 75% (IIRC) chance of feeblemind, while Starspawns have only a 5% chance, and a certain hero has a 2% chance.

The description of the gate needs to have that info added, as currently it is driving newbies insane. Which is something Ryleh should never do...

Orlanth · #2 December 10th, 2003, 12:20 AM

Thanks I tried that just now and it seems to help a lot! I was indeed using the Starspawn mages, a bad assumption.. The first time I made the mistake of choosing the sea-anemone-shaped pretender with Astral 9, thinking he would be great in the Gate. Four turns and one insane sea anemone later I had learned my lesson!

jaytau · #3 December 10th, 2003, 12:50 AM

I belive (from trial and error) that you should use a priest starspawn, as the other mage starspawns seem to go crazy 75% of the time also.

Again, I wish this type of stuff was called out in the docs. It's one thing for this stuff to be things you 'learn' on your own, when playing against the computer... it's totally another thing when you are playing a multiplayer game. And this game is supposed to be multiplayer, right?

Vger · #4 December 10th, 2003, 06:36 AM

Hi,

I had a most pleasant time with the gate. I used a Starspawn and eventually tricked him out with a Charcoal shield, Lead shield, Spirit helmet, Robe of Shadows, Boots of Quickness, Amulet of Anti-magic and Lifelong Protection.

By game end he got to level 23 and gave me some great summons: Numerous Great Otherness and a Vastness along with many, many other critters. I did have one guy before him that I didn't trick out with equipment that made it to level 12 before buying it. (Insanity.)

I did get the hero, but didn't want to risk him. The Lifelong Protection provided fodder to distract the Great Othernesses while my dude eventually fried them. I'm sure it would have also helped to have Empowered him. He was only 1 astral and 2 death.

Hope this helps,
V'ger gone

Teleolurian · #5 December 10th, 2003, 06:44 PM

If you do decide to branch out to Fire, feebleminded starspawns are great repositories for Fever Fetishes.

Nanohum · #6 December 11th, 2003, 05:15 PM

I've experiementing with the squids for a while now, and 5 summoned krackens seem to form a tough bodyguard for the void gater. I haven't lost a battle yet, even against 3 greater othernesses (didn't even kill 1 kracken). Of course, a vastness hasn't shown up...

I've just been using my insane priests as slightly tougher mind bLasters with boots of quickness.

To go a bit off topic, the main problem with this race seems to be money. Upkeep becomes horrendous for the mind bLasting troops, and I can never seem to gather enough troops to defend my new coastal conquests. My strategy has been to race to conjuration 9 for abominations (while scouring the seas for magic sites), then forming small squads of these nearly invincible beasts backed by mages and conquering away, but this takes a very long time, not to mention a great deal of upkeep for all of those researchers.

Anyone else have this problem?

Slogan · #7 December 11th, 2003, 11:39 PM

I found R'lyh to be one of the hardest nations to play. As was stated they consume a lot of gold and by the time they get strong enough to move onto land their armies are dwarfed by the other nations. Thanks for the tips on Void Summoning that was driving me insane! What about the other sites to be entered, I've had much trouble entering the sites that improve combat, do they need a particular unit to enter?