Wow. Paralyze is the Super combatant killer!

apoger · #1 December 22nd, 2003, 06:44 AM

I'm glad someone else has noticed this.
Seems Paralyze has amazing penetration.

Jasper · #2 December 22nd, 2003, 07:33 AM

I haven't tried casting Paralyzation directly so much as getting from Astral Shield, but ouch. I'm not sure I've ever seen anything Paralyzed live. I wonder if MR penetration items work with Astral Shield...

The Paralyzing Poison from the Barbed Tail attacks of many demons seems fairly nasty as well. I haven't played around with it, but I'm presuming there is no MR save.

Anyone know of anything else that has Paralyzing Poison?

Saber Cherry · #3 December 22nd, 2003, 08:25 AM

Things with "poisoned claws", like ghouls and Ermor priests, have paralyzing poison... but as far as I can tell, it just does fatigue damage (50, perhaps?), not paralysis.

Also, Woodsman Blowdarts do paralyzing poison damage, and I'm not sure which kind. But with 2 AP damage, they can't hit anything armored, anyway...

#4 December 22nd, 2003, 09:51 AM

Paralyzation is just another hammer in the "Astral is great, for a select few races" coffin. Not only does it only take a few cssts to usually affect all the SC's. But it is cast on Pretenders, Devils, King (Queen) of (Element) and other nasties first (The targeting isn't stupid). It even goes to mages next. And on top of that, once something is parazyled it isn't doing anything. The duration of the spell is almost as good as it's penetration.

[ December 22, 2003, 08:01: Message edited by: Zen ]

WraithLord · #5 December 22nd, 2003, 10:26 AM

I think duration and or penetration of paralyze should tone down a bit.
It's a good SC counter, but it must require many more castings or Last less rounds.

Taqwus · #6 December 22nd, 2003, 10:45 PM

Penetration might be pretty high.

Bear in mind, 'tho, that there are assorted personal instant-death spells, such as Soul Slay, Petrify, Disintegrate, Magic Duel, Opposition; as well as delayed-death spells like Maggots and Decay; and spells that come close to instant death for many, like Incinerate. If it weren't for a penetration bonus, Paralysis would be weaker, since there's still a chance of surviving.

NTJedi · #7 December 22nd, 2003, 11:23 PM

Yes I've seen the same thing about Paralyze... even wrote a topic a few days back. What happened in my scenario:

I was attacking the AI enemy at his capital and his pretender had 6 water and 2 astral. Anyways almost instantly my pretender and earth king were PARALYZED solid then my Kharionic Lions were getting targeted. I still won the battle but the enemy pretender was only casting paralyze the entire time.

What makes this spell so powerful:
A) targets the largest monsters then the wizards.
B) anyone paralyzed is not going to wake up... thus if you start to lose you're dead.
C) the spell rarely fails

Personally I feel the spell is way too powerful.