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January 30th, 2004, 07:22 PM
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Re: "New" Pythium and the javelin throwers in general
Don't forget the gladiators. Not something used a lot, but they can make a big difference in some situations. Also, the Principe are great.
Yes, Ulmish troops have more armor, and giants are tough. But Ulmish troops are slow, have weak morale, and cost loads of resources --> slow to produce. Giants are expensive both in resources and gold, and have supply problems & increased vulnerability to spells like curse, blindness, etc.
Principe have strat move 2, good armor + tower shield, javelins, no moral problems since you got standards and good priests. Very cost effective, in both resources and gold. What's not to like?
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January 30th, 2004, 09:49 PM
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Re: "New" Pythium and the javelin throwers in general
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But they still have the cheapest researcher in the game (80 gold sacred),...
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Man Bards 75 Gold, Marignon Initiates 60 Gold,... 
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January 30th, 2004, 09:55 PM
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Re: "New" Pythium and the javelin throwers in general
They are not sacred.
Sacred is 1/2 the upkeep cost.
A Marginon Initiate has 4 Gold Upkeep.
A Pythium has 2 1/2 upkeep. Over the course of the game (where you are churning them out and keeping them around) they are overall cheaper.
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January 30th, 2004, 09:55 PM
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Re: "New" Pythium and the javelin throwers in general
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Originally posted by Coffeedragon:
quote: Originally posted by Chris Byler:
But they still have the cheapest researcher in the game (80 gold sacred),...
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Man Bards 75 Gold, Marignon Initiates 60 Gold,... 80 gold sacred beats both of those. They are actually 90 gold sacred, but have priest powers, so that's OK.
Man's daughters of Avalon are level-2 Nature and 80 gold sacred, the best national researchers I can think of. Not to mention that they get Owl Quills as well.
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January 30th, 2004, 10:44 PM
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Re: "New" Pythium and the javelin throwers in general
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Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
quote: Originally posted by Coffeedragon:
quote: Originally posted by Chris Byler:
But they still have the cheapest researcher in the game (80 gold sacred),...
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Man Bards 75 Gold, Marignon Initiates 60 Gold,... 80 gold sacred beats both of those. They are actually 90 gold sacred, but have priest powers, so that's OK.
Oh? They must have raised the cost from Dom I.
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Man's daughters of Avalon are level-2 Nature and 80 gold sacred, the best national researchers I can think of. Not to mention that they get Owl Quills as well.
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Daughters are sacred now?
That's what I get for *just* playing the new nations/themes... well, and R'lyeh, how could you not try R'lyeh?
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