Iron Dragons=Uber Unit ??

NTJedi · #1 December 23rd, 2003, 09:11 PM

Iron Dragons????

They're only good and banning them from a game is way overboard.

There are other spells just as powerful if not more powerful !
examples:
Ghost Riders = Army of Longdead Horsemen for 5 death gems
THUS 25 gems same price as your Iron Dragon... you have 5 of those armies which could easily do TONZ MORE damage then any one iron dragon !!

Wild Hunt = Global Enchantment which sends one enemy priests by himself every turn to fight a powerful nature assassin plus army of strong wolves. Much better assassin then any Iron Dragon could even wish to be.

these are just two examples !

[ December 23, 2003, 22:05: Message edited by: NTJedi ]

sfsuphysics · #2 December 23rd, 2003, 09:19 PM

Yah considering its a level 9 spell, and how many levels of earth magic do you need to summon it? (probably invested a few gems there getting a mage that powerful, unless that was your initial pretender). That late in the game you shouldn't have to pay ungodly amounts of gems to summon powerful creatures, I mean its assumed you're already powerful as it is.

Besides no creature is perfectly good. As mentioned already with magic. Plus I'm sure enough lower level creatures and you can overwhelm even an iron dragon. Never had one myself personally, but also can you heal them? Or are they like golems?

Gandalf Parker · #3 December 23rd, 2003, 09:46 PM

In Dom1 there were some things that eventually became common to agree not to use. Only until a patch fixed them tho which did usually happen.

But in general, this is an excellent game of balances. If you feel something is too powerful (or too worthless) you might want to do some creative thinking.

If anything DOES seem in either Category let us know.

Hawkmoon · #4 December 23rd, 2003, 10:21 PM

The replies have been awesome...thanks a lot..I will share what I've gathered here...looks like ID's aren't quite as "Uber" as I had previously thought. LOL...and apparently there are far worse things than a unit of ID out there...sheesh...this game is insane...I love it !!!

Vger · #5 December 24th, 2003, 12:01 AM

Hi,

I'm a relative newb, but I should think that playing Jotun with Neifel theme could also deal with them. Those Jarls are SC's by themselves, especially once you can equip them decently. Just offering another solution.

Also, I haven't done this, but from looking at the stats for the Troll King and his court when I cast it makes me think it would do well vs IDs.

This would be an interesting trial for the new battle simulator someone's done. I.e. what can kill IDs?

Ciao,
V'ger gone

ywl · #6 December 24th, 2003, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vger:
Hi,

I'm a relative newb, but I should think that playing Jotun with Neifel theme could also deal with them. Those Jarls are SC's by themselves, especially once you can equip them decently. Just offering another solution.

Also, I haven't done this, but from looking at the stats for the Troll King and his court when I cast it makes me think it would do well vs IDs.

This would be an interesting trial for the new battle simulator someone's done. I.e. what can kill IDs?

Ciao,
V'ger gone

Too many. A bunch of ghosts or vampires will do. They're ethereal and have high defense, so that they're less likely to be trampled. Their attacks are armor piercing. And they're cheaper in term of gems and accessible at lower level.

Even a Firblog with a good armor-negating weapon may be able to finish one off - not sure on this, somebody has to test.

Saber Cherry · #7 December 24th, 2003, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vger:
This would be an interesting trial for the new battle simulator someone's done. I.e. what can kill IDs?

Go for it=) Just post the stats for an Iron Dragon (in the correct format) in the Battle Sim thread, and I'll add it to the simulator=) Or feel free to add it yourself, and learn the results in secret

The data files are all easily-edited text files.