Iron Dragons=Uber Unit ??

Arralen · #1 December 24th, 2003, 01:46 PM

[quote]Originally posted by ywl:

Quote:

Originally posted by Vger:
Even a Firblog with a good armor-negating weapon may be able to finish one off - not sure on this, somebody has to test.

.. the ID isn't lighting-resistant, right?
The combo will work on lots of others "biggest monsters", too, though ...

Thunder Bow
(10 air gems; STR armor negating damage)
Girdle of Might
( 3 earth gems; +3 STR, +3 Reinv.)

Those quite low-level and easy to forge items will result in:

DAM 20 (lighting, armor-negating)
range 30
prec 18

I went for girdle of might because the Firbolg is rather heavy encumbered, and I found them rel. often with fat. >10, which will incure them a -1 penalty, when they ran around to get the nicest target in range ...
Maybe a total prec of 18 is too low, so you might want to add a Eye of Aiming, and maybe a Bear Claw while you're at it, for another 5 damage

A.

apoger · #2 December 24th, 2003, 01:59 PM

>.. the ID isn't lighting-resistant, right?

It's 100% resistant to all elements and poison.

Sending in troops versus ID's is just a good way to lose troops. Magic that requires a MR check is their real weakness.

PvK · #3 December 24th, 2003, 06:27 PM

Are they vulnerable to Elf Bane, too?

apoger · #4 December 24th, 2003, 07:17 PM

Elf bane would probably work... but unless the character holding it is BEEFY you don't want to lose a magic weapon if the dragon tramples over him/her first.

Endoperez · #5 December 24th, 2003, 08:58 PM

Can one repel a Trample attack? If yes, what is it's length?

Maybe spears, or pikes, (length 3-5) though I could see it being only length 0 too...

Oops, forgot the main idea: If the "length of trample" (

) is zero, then you would have one chance to repel with elf bane. Well, it would be something...

[ December 24, 2003, 19:05: Message edited by: Endoperez ]

ywl · #6 December 24th, 2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by Endoperez:
Can one repel a Trample attack? If yes, what is it's length?
Maybe spears, or pikes, (length 3-5) though I could see it being only length 0 too...

Oops, forgot the main idea: If the "length of trample" ( ) is zero, then you would have one chance to repel with elf bane. Well, it would be something...

I think it checks against your "defense" value. So, lightly armored units have the advantage (make sense, right?

. So do ethereal units though I don't know what's the bonus is. Worse for the trampler is: even if he has some very good melee weapon, he'll still trample by default even facing high-defense units. That's why I mentioned ghost, which has a decent defense and ethereal.

Trampling damage is armor negating and related to the trampler's size - somebody else could probably give you a precise formula.

Iron Dragons are powerful, especially since they're so mobile. But it's not the end of the world.

Arralen · #7 December 24th, 2003, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by apoger:
>.. the ID isn't lighting-resistant, right?

It's 100% resistant to all elements and poison.

Sending in troops versus ID's is just a good way to lose troops. Magic that requires a MR check is their real weakness.

.. so switch Thunder Bow for Ethereal Crossbow plus Boots of Quickness ...

A.