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				December 31st, 2003, 10:27 PM
			
			
			
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 I think the scout is cheaper, stealthy but has worse equipment than Herse. BUT scouts have better stats than Herses... So, if you are putting equipment and remember to not sneak with them, they are better. I'm not sure about the stats part, but I recall something like that when I tried to find a use for them... |  
	
		
	
	
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 For Niefel I have used Earth Mother nature9 earth9. 
 Do a search for "Niefel" or "Niefelheim" for some discussion on this - can't remember the name of the thread.
 
 You can get some very impressive results using Niefel Giants and Herses as your blessed monstrosities but there is not much you can do facing paralysis so you need to develop another string to your bow for figthing astral races. Undead perhaps? I haven't tried the race since the full game came out.
 
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	I was curious about the Illwinter spell too, so I finally tried it.  I've had it up for about a dozen turns, and no sign of any Rimtursar.  I guess the benefit is the cold - but I don't know if the effect is woth the effort...Quote: 
	
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				January 1st, 2004, 09:07 AM
			
			
			
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 I wonder if we search our homeland, will we find more gems of other types? I tried searching a couple of times with other types of mages, but have always come up with nothing. 
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 It is my understanding that the home province is already completely searched in regards to magic sites, even though it does not appear so in the searched by a level X mage icons. I imagine it's to balance the nations. |  
	
		
	
	
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 In the maps that come with the game, there are no hidden sites in the starting provinces.  The fact they aren't marked as searched, however, is deliberate as maps CAN be made with the potential for hidden sites in those provinces. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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